Local view for "http://purl.org/linkedpolitics/eu/plenary/2005-09-05-Speech-1-120"

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rdf:type	lpv_eu:Speech2
dcterms:Date	"2005-09-05"^^xsd:date2
dcterms:Is Part Of	lp_eu:Dialogue with churches and non-denominational organisations2
dcterms:Language	"nl"^^xsd:language2
lpv:document identification number	"en.20050905.20.1-120"2
lpv:hasSubsequent	lp_eu:2005-09-05-Speech-1-1212
lpv:speaker	lp:Bas Belder2
lpv:spokenAs	member; Delegation to the EU-Bulgaria Joint Parliamentary Committee (2004-09-15--2006-12-31)3 member; IND/DEM (2004-07-20--2009-07-13)3 substitute; REGI (2004-09-15--2007-01-14)3 substitute; AFCO (2004-09-15--2007-01-14)3 substitute; Delegation for relations with the United States (2004-09-23--2007-03-13)3 vice-chair; Delegation for relations with Israel (2004-09-20--2007-03-13)3 member; AFET (2004-07-21--2007-01-14)3 substitute; INTA (2004-07-21--2007-01-14)3 unknown; ChristenUnie - Staatkundig Gereformeerde Parti (2004-07-20--2009-07-13)3
lpv:translated text	". Madam President, three matters of principle are being overlooked in this debate. First of all, churches are public-law establishments and are not the same as private associations. That is why church services are public and accessible to everyone. The relationship between state and church has played a major role in the history of western constitutional law. What is all-important is that good public administration is inseparable from sound public morals. Procedures alone are not enough. Anyone who rejects this basic notion strikes at the roots of our democratic societies. Secondly, when inviting bodies to participate in this dialogue, the Commission would do well to draw a distinction between religion and ideology. Religion is transcendent in nature, while ideology is immanent. It is a God-less religion, a quasi-religion that is motivated and dominated by human desires. Ideology does not allow people any freedom and leads to all kinds of slavery. I would warn the Commission and the Liberal and Socialist Members of this House against lumping these two very different notions together, as history shows that this results in social disaster. Finally, the law that applies in this case is the Amsterdam Treaty, declaration No 11, which the Commissioner quoted just a moment ago. It may have slipped your minds, but since the referenda in France and the Netherlands, the Constitutional Treaty really is old hat."@en1

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