Local view for "http://purl.org/linkedpolitics/eu/plenary/2001-03-13-Speech-2-034"

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rdf:type	lpv_eu:Speech2
dcterms:Date	"2001-03-13"^^xsd:date2
dcterms:Is Part Of	lp_eu:Carriers' liability2
dcterms:Language	"de"^^xsd:language2
lpv:document identification number	"en.20010313.5.2-034"2
lpv:hasSubsequent	lp_eu:2001-03-13-Speech-2-0352
lpv:speaker	lp:Ozan Ceyhun2
lpv:spokenAs	member; PES (2000-10-23--2004-07-19)3,3 unknown; Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (2000-10-23--2004-07-19)3,3 member; Committee on Citizens' Freedoms and Rights, Justice and Home Affairs (1999-07-21--2002-01-14)3,3 vice-chair; Delegation to the EU-Turkey Joint Parliamentary Committee (2000-10-27--2002-01-14)3,3 member; Temporary committee on the Echelon interception system (2000-07-06--2001-09-05)3,3
lpv:translated text	"Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, there is absolutely no question that we are all in favour of sensible management and control of immigration, including by means of protecting the external borders of the Union. I believe that we are all in agreement as regards this and that there is no need to argue about it. However, I think we also agree, on the other hand, – and Mr Kirkhope especially, as a former British Home Affairs Minister, will agree with me here – that we will ultimately not achieve very much with all these individual measures and that we are dealing with an area in which we are not seeking to solve the basic problems but, by taking small steps, at least to achieve something. If this is the case, then it is also clear that our discussion must be as free from ideology as possible. If we also agree, then, that we want an ideology-free discussion and we know that illegal immigration can never, in fact, be completely prevented – in other words, there will always be illegal immigration, no matter what happens – then, of course, we have to admit that we can ultimately achieve very little with penalties for carriers alone. If we are in agreement about this too, then we must also acknowledge, Mr Kirkhope, that if we want to do something, then we have to engage in discussions with the carriers themselves. I am currently engaged in discussions with representatives of the international transport trade unions and I think there is still room for finding common ways forward on this. But when one speaks with these companies, Mr Kirkhope, one realises that your proposals are not at all helpful and that they attempt to frame the French initiative, which itself was already rejected by the carriers, even more restrictively. At this point, I ask myself why we are dealing at all with a report that no one supports."@en1

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