Local view for "http://purl.org/linkedpolitics/eu/plenary/2007-09-26-Speech-3-212"

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rdf:type	lpv_eu:Speech2
dcterms:Date	"2007-09-26"^^xsd:date2
dcterms:Is Part Of	lp_eu:Secret detentions and unlawful inter-state transfers involving member states of the Council of Europe (reports Fava and Marty) (debate)2
dcterms:Language	"nl"^^xsd:language2
lpv:document identification number	"en.20070926.17.3-212"2
lpv:hasSubsequent	lp_eu:2007-09-26-Speech-3-2132
lpv:speaker	lp:Sophia in 't Veld2
lpv:spokenAs	member; ECON (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3 substitute; FEMM (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3 unknown; Democraten 66 (2004-07-20--2009-07-13)3 member_of_the_bureau; ALDE (2004-07-20--2009-07-13)3 substitute; LIBE (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3 member; Delegation for relations with the Mashreq countries (2007-03-14--2009-07-13)3 substitute; Delegation for relations with the People's Republic of China (2007-03-14--2009-07-13)3
lpv:translated text	"Mr President, I agree with the previous speakers. The Member States acted collectively, both in the Council and in NATO, and so we must also account for our actions collectively as the Council; you cannot hide behind the argument of powers and subsidiarity; it is not a matter of making two particular Member States into scapegoats. People keep saying that there is no conclusive legal evidence. That is not necessary, firstly because we have a witness, Mr Bush himself, who said: yes, there are renditions, yes, there are black sites. I will go further than that: we think it is an excellent idea. Furthermore, the facts have been proven in court cases in both Germany and Italy, in addition to all the other facts on the table before us. Besides, Parliament is not a court of law – Mr Frattini is right about that – but the Member States not only have a legal, they also have a political and moral duty to account for their actions, not only before the court but also to their citizens. Can the Council, can the ministers look their citizens directly in the eye and say that human rights violations in Europe will continue to go unpunished? Because that is what it amounts to. The allegations are extremely serious and if, according to the Council, there is no truth in them at all, then the Council must refute them. If, however, there is a grain of truth in the allegations, then the facts are serious enough to warrant an enquiry. Finally, I also agree with those who say ‘yes’ to extradition between the United States and the European Union; not, however, just for those whom the United States considers to be suspects, but also when countries of the European Union request the extradition of CIA agents."@en1

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