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"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@en4
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"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@cs1
"Fru formand! Dette bliver desværre en ulykkelig og sørgelig beretning om problemer i Europa, for organiseret kriminalitet er på fremmarch inden for alle områder, det foregår i det skjulte, og vi har ikke det fulde billede. Det har fortrinsvis sit udgangspunkt i stater uden for EU, hvor regeringen er svag, og der sker derfor meget lidt for at stoppe banderne og de kriminelle, der arbejder organiseret.
Jeg taler om narkotika som heroin og kokain, som bringes hertil fra forskellige stedet i verden, om ecstasy, som eksporteres fra Europa til forskellige steder i verden, om ulovlige indvandrere, som bringes hertil fra Asien og Afrika uden ordentlig kontrol, om varemærkeforfalskede varer af enhver tænkelig slags, nogle af dem bare simpelt legetøj eller musik-cd'er, men også ting som medicin, hvilket er meget alvorligt og livsfarligt, og om kriminalitet på internettet - tyveri af penge og identitet. Kriminaliteten vokser inden for alle områder, og vi har måske alle lidt erfaring inden for alle områder.
Alle erhverv er klar over problemerne inden for deres egen branche, men de holder statistikken skjult, fordi de ikke ønsker at svække offentlighedens tillid til dem. Hvis en taskeproducent sagde: "Pas på, når I køber en af mine smukke lædertasker, for det er måske en forfalskning fra Fjernøsten eller et andet sted", så ville de svække deres egne muligheder. Så ingen fortæller offentligt, hvad der i virkeligheden foregår.
Nogle organiserede bander er etniske familier, der arbejder vældig godt sammen på en sammenspist måde, nogle er nu organiseret som meget effektive, meget store multinationale koncerner - i denne uge var der endda en, der gav mig et organisationsdiagram over en organiseret forbrydersammenslutning! De krydser med total lethed og helt uden besvær EU's interne grænser. Her er problemet: Politiet kan ikke krydse grænserne. Forbryderne rejser altså uhindret hen, hvor de har lyst, og gør uhindret, hvad de har lyst til, mens politiet skal holde sig til deres egne områder eller deres egen medlemsstat og derfor er stærkt hæmmet og ude af stand til at bekæmpe de kriminelle på lige fod. Hvad gør en politibetjent, hvis der er et problem på den anden side af grænsen? Henvender de sig et centralt sted og får kontaktoplysninger fra en telefonbog? Der findes ingen telefonbog. Der findes ingen måde, hvorpå en politibetjent i ét land kan finde et telefonnummer eller en e-mail-adresse på en passende kontakt i en anden medlemsstat. Det er utroligt - en total mangel på samarbejde.
Årsagen hertil er manglen på gensidig tillid og forståelse, dvs. at vi traditionelt ikke ønsker at overlade vores oplysninger til udlændinge eller afsløre kilderne til vores oplysninger, fordi det ville afsløre for mange hemmeligheder. Vi stoler ikke på hinanden i Europa. Banderne stoler fuldt og fast på hinanden, så de vinder uden overhovedet at anstrenge sig.
Men det er ikke lutter elendighed. Amerikanerne med deres åbne grænser mellem delstaterne oplevede præcis samme problem i 1930'erne. Som i filmen
som De sandsynligvis har set. De røvede banker og tog pengene med over grænsen til en anden delstat, hvorefter politiet ikke kunne følge efter dem. Amerikanerne opfandt FBI med beføjelse til at krydse grænser, og jeg formoder, vi nu har nået samme punkt her i Europa. Vi har brug for en politistyrke, der kan forfølge forbrydere på tværs af grænser. Offentligheden vil være yderst skeptisk, de nationale ledere siger intet om det, men jeg synes, vi har nået det punkt og er nødt til at gøre noget.
I dag, på denne side af Atlanten, i EU, er der imidlertid ingen statistik, der afslører problemets omfang for offentligheden. Hver af de 27 medlemsstater fører statistik på hver deres måde. Der findes ingen komparativ statistik for EU, så vi håber, at Kommissionen arbejder i retning af at få sat noget i gang inden for et par år. Vi aner ingenting, har intet overblik, ingen oplysninger til offentligheden, ingen demokratisk kontrol, fordi det falder under den tredje søjle og derfor administreres af de nationale regeringer, som ikke gør særlig meget, fordi offentligheden ikke lægger pres på dem om at gøre noget.
Jeg frygter, at den eneste måde, vi kan få ændret situationen på, er et voldsomt chok, noget i stil med 11. september i Europa. Noget så slemt, at offentligheden siger: "Hvordan kunne dette få lov at ske? Hvordan kunne forbryderorganisationerne slippe godt fra det så længe, når der skete så lidt i 27 nationale hovedstæder?" Men hvis forbryderne er smarte - og de er meget smarte - så stikker de aldrig hovedet frem. De vil aldrig udføre en 11. september, og de vil bare fortsætte med at æde af samfundet, fortære os, svække os, stjæle job og svække EU i al almindelighed. Der er virkelig brug for handling, og jeg håber, Parlamentet vil støtte denne betænkning og presse ministrene til at træffe nogle beslutninger."@da2
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Frau Präsidentin! Ich bedaure, Ihnen sagen zu müssen, dass dies eine Geschichte des Leidens, des Elends und der Probleme für Europa sein wird, denn die organisierte Kriminalität ist auf allen Gebieten im Ansteigen begriffen, und wir haben keinen vollständigen Überblick. Ihre Basis hat sie zumeist außerhalb der EU, wo Regierungen schwach sind und deshalb sehr wenig unternommen wird, um die Banden und die Kriminellen aufzuhalten, die organisiert vorgehen.
Ich spreche hier von Drogen wie Heroin und Kokain, die aus verschiedenen Teilen der Welt eingeführt werden; von Ecstasy, das von Europa aus in verschiedene Teile der Welt ausgeführt wird; von illegalen Einwanderern, die von Asien und Afrika ohne ordentliche Kontrolle hierher gelangen; von nachgeahmten Waren jeder erdenklichen Art, manchmal nur einfaches Spielzeug oder Musik-CDs, manchmal aber auch Dinge wie Arzneimittel, was äußerst ernst und lebensbedrohend ist; und von der Kriminalität im Internet – dem Diebstahl von Geld und Identität. Die Kriminalität nimmt in allen Bereichen zu, und in allen Bereichen hat jeder von uns vielleicht ein wenig Erfahrung.
Jeder Wirtschaftszweig ist sich der Probleme im eigenen Sektor bewusst, hält aber die Statistiken geheim, weil er das Vertrauen der Öffentlichkeit nicht erschüttern will. Wenn ein Taschenhersteller sagt: „Seien Sie vorsichtig, wenn Sie meine schöne Ledertasche kaufen, denn es könnte eine Fälschung aus dem Nahen Osten oder von anderswo sein“, dann schadet er den eigenen Zukunftsaussichten. Also sagt niemand der Öffentlichkeit, was wirklich vor sich geht.
Einige organisierte Banden gehören bestimmten ethnischen Gruppen an, die sehr gut mit starkem Zusammenhalt arbeiten; einige sind inzwischen wie hoch effektive, sehr große multinationale Konzerne organisiert – diese Woche erhielt ich sogar ein Organigramm für eine organisierte kriminelle Bande! Sie überschreiten die Grenzen innerhalb unserer Union mit Leichtigkeit und ohne jede Schwierigkeit. Hier liegt das Problem: Unsere Polizei darf keine Grenzen überschreiten. Die Straftäter begeben sich also überall hin, wohin sie wollen, um zu tun, was immer sie wollen, aber unsere Polizei ist auf ihre Bereiche oder ihren Mitgliedstaat beschränkt und deshalb stark behindert, kann also den Kampf gegen die Straftäter nicht auf Augenhöhe führen. Was tun einzelne Polizeibeamte nun, wenn es ein Problem auf der anderen Seite der Grenze gibt? Wenden sie sich an eine zentrale Stelle und erhalten dort aus dem Telefonverzeichnis Angaben zur Kontaktaufnahme? Es gibt kein Verzeichnis. Es gibt keine Einrichtung, wo ein Polizeibeamter in irgendeinem Land eine Telefonnummer oder eine E-Mail-Adresse finden kann, um sich angemessen mit einem anderen Mitgliedstaat in Verbindung zu setzen. Es ist unglaublich: keinerlei Zusammenarbeit.
Der Grund dafür sind mangelndes gegenseitiges Vertrauen und Verständnis, das heißt, wir wollen traditionell Ausländern unsere Informationen nicht geben oder die Quelle unserer Informationen nicht offenbaren, weil damit zu viele Geheimnisse preisgegeben würden. Wir vertrauen einander innerhalb Europas nicht. Die Banden vertrauen einander ganz wunderbar, und deshalb gewinnen sie derzeit spielend.
Es ist jedoch nicht alles schlecht. Die Amerikaner mit ihren offenen Grenzen zwischen den Bundesstaaten standen in den 1930er Jahren vor genau dem gleichen Problem. Sie haben wahrscheinlich den Film „Bonnie und Clyde“ gesehen. Diese beiden haben Banken ausgeraubt, das Geld über die Grenze in einen anderen Bundesstaat geschafft, und die Polizei konnte ihnen nicht folgen. Die Amerikaner erfanden das FBI mit grenzüberschreitenden Befugnissen, und ich vermute, diese Phase haben wir jetzt in Europa erreicht. Wir brauchen eine Strafverfolgungsbehörde, die Straftäter über Landesgrenzen hinweg verfolgen kann. Die Öffentlichkeit wird sehr skeptisch sein; die Entscheidungsträger der Länder äußern sich nicht dazu, aber ich glaube, wir sind an diesem Punkt angekommen und müssen etwas unternehmen.
Gegenwärtig gibt es jedoch auf dieser Seite des Atlantik, in der Europäischen Union, keine Statistik, die der Öffentlichkeit das Ausmaß des Problems verdeutlichen würde. Jeder einzelne der 27 Mitgliedstaaten erhebt Statistiken auf seine eigene besondere Weise. Es gibt keine untereinander vergleichbaren EU-Statistiken, und deshalb hoffen wir, dass die Kommission jetzt in dieser Richtung tätig wird, damit das in ein paar Jahren anlaufen kann. Wir haben keine Vorstellung, kein klares Bild, keine Informationen für die Öffentlichkeit, keine demokratische Kontrolle, denn dies fällt unter den dritten Pfeiler und damit unter die Kontrolle der einzelstaatlichen Regierungen, die kaum etwas tun, weil die Öffentlichkeit keinen entsprechenden Druck auf sie ausübt.
Ich befürchte, der einzige Weg, um einen Wandel herbeizuführen, ist ein dramatischer Schock, etwas wie ein europäischer 11. September. Etwas so Schlimmes, dass die Öffentlichkeit dann fragt: „Wie konnte man das zulassen? Wie konnten die kriminellen Banden so lange damit durchkommen, wenn in den 27 Hauptstädten so wenig getan wurde?“ Doch wenn die Straftäter schlau sind – und sie sind sehr schlau –, dann werden sie diese Grenze nie überschreiten. Sie werden nie einen 11. September verüben, und sie werden sich einfach weiter in unsere Gesellschaft fressen, sich von uns ernähren, uns schwächen, Arbeitsplätze wegnehmen und so im Grunde die gesamte Union schwächen. Wir haben wirklich Handlungsbedarf, und ich hoffe, das Parlament unterstützt diesen Bericht und drängt die Minister zu Entscheidungen."@de9
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Κυρία Πρόεδρε, με λύπη μου οφείλω να σας προειδοποιήσω ότι η ιστορία που θα σας διηγηθώ είναι μια ιστορία πόνου, δυστυχίας, και προβλημάτων για την Ευρώπη, καθόσον το οργανωμένο έγκλημα αναπτύσσεται σε όλους τους τομείς, κινείται υπόγεια και δεν διαθέτουμε πλήρη εικόνα του. Εξορμά από κράτη εκτός της ΕΕ, κατά κύριο λόγο, όπου οι κυβερνήσεις είναι ανίσχυρες και, ως εκ τούτου, τα μέτρα που λαμβάνονται για τον τερματισμό της δραστηριότητας των συμμοριών και των εγκληματιών που αναπτύσσουν οργανωμένη δράση είναι ελάχιστα.
Αναφέρομαι σε ναρκωτικά όπως η ηρωίνη και η κοκαΐνη, τα οποία εισάγονται από άλλες περιοχές του κόσμου· στο «έκσταση», το οποίο εξάγεται από την Ευρώπη σε διάφορες περιοχές του κόσμου· στους παράνομους μετανάστες, οι οποίοι μεταφέρονται από την Ασία και την Αφρική χωρίς τον αναγκαίο νόμιμο έλεγχο· σε απομιμήσεις προϊόντων κάθε είδους, ορισμένα εκ των οποίων είναι απλά παιγνίδια ή οπτικοί δίσκοι μουσικής, ορισμένα άλλα όμως, όπως τα φάρμακα, είναι εξαιρετικά σοβαρά και επικίνδυνα για την ανθρώπινη ζωή· καθώς και στο διαδικτυακό έγκλημα – στην κλοπή χρημάτων και στοιχείων ταυτότητας. Σε όλους τους τομείς, η εγκληματικότητα αυξάνεται και από όλους τους τομείς έχουμε όλοι ενδεχομένως κάποια μικρή εμπειρία.
Όλες οι βιομηχανίες γνωρίζουν τα προβλήματα που αντιμετωπίζει ο επιμέρους τομέας που τις αφορά, όμως αποκρύπτουν τα στατιστικά στοιχεία επειδή φοβούνται ότι μπορεί να υπονομεύσουν την εμπιστοσύνη του κοινού. Αν ένας κατασκευαστής τσαντών πει «Προσέξτε πριν αγοράσετε την όμορφη δερμάτινη τσάντα μου γιατί μπορεί να είναι απομίμηση από την Άπω Ανατολή ή από κάποια άλλη περιοχή», θα υπονομεύσει τις προοπτικές πώλησης του προϊόντος του. Συνεπώς, κανείς δεν ενημερώνει το κοινό για την πραγματική κατάσταση.
Ορισμένες οργανωμένες συμμορίες αποτελούνται από μέλη της ίδιας εθνικότητας και συνεργάζονται πολύ καλά μεταξύ τους σαν μια μεγάλη οικογένεια· άλλες συμμορίες έχουν πλέον οργανωθεί στο σχήμα πολύ αποτελεσματικών και πολύ μεγάλων πολυεθνικών επιχειρήσεων – αυτή την εβδομάδα έλαβα μάλιστα το οργανόγραμμα μιας οργανωμένης εγκληματικής συμμορίας! Διασχίζουν τα σύνορα στο εσωτερικό της Ένωσής μας με τεράστια ευκολία και χωρίς να συναντούν το παραμικρό εμπόδιο. Εκεί έγκειται το πρόβλημα: η αστυνομία μας δεν μπορεί να διασχίσει τα σύνορα. Συνεπώς, οι εγκληματίες πηγαίνουν όπου θέλουν και κάνουν ό,τι θέλουν, όμως οι αστυνομίες μας είναι περιορισμένες στις περιφέρειες για τις οποίες είναι αρμόδιες ή στα κράτη μέλη τους και, ως εκ τούτου, βρίσκονται σε εξαιρετικά μειονεκτική θέση και αδυνατούν να αντιμετωπίσουν τους εγκληματίες επί ίσοις όροις. Τι κάνουν οι αστυνομικοί όταν βρεθούν αντιμέτωποι με ένα διασυνοριακό πρόβλημα; Απευθύνονται σε μια κεντρική υπηρεσία και ζητούν στοιχεία επικοινωνίας από τον τηλεφωνικό κατάλογο; Δεν υπάρχει τέτοιος κατάλογος. Οι αστυνομικοί δεν έχουν τη δυνατότητα να αναζητήσουν τον αριθμό τηλεφώνου ή τη διεύθυνση ηλεκτρονικού ταχυδρομείου κάποιου αρμοδίου σε διαφορετικό κράτος μέλος. Είναι απίστευτο – επικρατεί πλήρης έλλειψη συνεργασίας.
Αυτό οφείλεται στην έλλειψη αμοιβαίας εμπιστοσύνης και κατανόησης, πράγμα που σημαίνει ότι, παραδοσιακά, δεν επιθυμούμε να δώσουμε σε ξένους τις πληροφορίες που έχουμε στη διάθεσή μας ή να αποκαλύψουμε τις πηγές πληροφόρησής μας, διότι με αυτόν τον τρόπο θα αποκαλύπταμε τα μυστικά μας. Δεν εμπιστευόμαστε ο ένας τον άλλον εντός της Ευρώπης. Οι συμμορίες έχουν άριστες σχέσεις εμπιστοσύνης, οπότε κερδίζουν χωρίς μεγάλη προσπάθεια.
Δεν είναι όλα απελπιστικά. Οι Αμερικανοί, με τα ανοικτά σύνορα μεταξύ των πολιτειών τους, αντιμετώπισαν το ίδιο ακριβώς πρόβλημα τη δεκαετία του 1930. Πιθανότατα έχετε δει την ταινία «Μπόνι και Κλάιντ». Το εν λόγω ζευγάρι λήστευε τράπεζες, μετέφερε τα χρήματα σε διαφορετική πολιτεία και η αστυνομία δεν μπορούσε να το ακολουθήσει. Οι Αμερικανοί εφηύραν το FBI, το οποίο είχε τη δυνατότητα να διασχίζει τα σύνορα, και υποπτεύομαι ότι αυτό είναι το στάδιο στο οποίο βρισκόμαστε τώρα στην Ευρώπη. Χρειαζόμαστε μια υπηρεσία επιβολής του νόμου η οποία θα μπορεί να διώκει εγκληματίες διασχίζοντας τα σύνορα μεταξύ των κρατών μελών. Το κοινό θα αντιμετωπίσει το θέμα με μεγάλη δυσπιστία· οι ηγέτες των κρατών μελών δεν θίγουν καθόλου το θέμα, όμως θεωρώ ότι βρισκόμαστε πλέον σε αυτό το στάδιο και πρέπει να αναλάβουμε δράση.
Εντούτοις, σήμερα, σε αυτή την πλευρά του Ατλαντικού, στην Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση, δεν υπάρχουν στατιστικά στοιχεία τα οποία να αποκαλύπτουν στους πολίτες το μέγεθος του προβλήματος. Καθένα από τα 27 κράτη μέλη συλλέγει στατιστικά στοιχεία με τον δικό του ιδιαίτερο τρόπο. Δεν υπάρχουν συγκριτικά στατιστικά στοιχεία σε επίπεδο ΕΕ, οπότε ευελπιστούμε ότι η Επιτροπή καταβάλλει προσπάθειες προς αυτή την κατεύθυνση, προκειμένου δηλαδή, μετά από κάποια χρόνια, να αρχίσουμε να διαθέτουμε τέτοια στοιχεία. Δεν έχουμε την παραμικρή ιδέα, δεν υπάρχει σαφής εικόνα, ενημέρωση των πολιτών ή δημοκρατικός έλεγχος, διότι το θέμα υπάγεται στον τρίτο πυλώνα και, ως εκ τούτου, ελέγχεται από τις εθνικές κυβερνήσεις, οι οποίες πράττουν ελάχιστα επειδή δεν αισθάνονται να τις πιέζουν οι πολίτες να αναλάβουν δράση.
Φοβούμαι ότι η κατάσταση δεν πρόκειται να αλλάξει αν δεν υπάρξει κάποιο δραματικό γεγονός, κάτι σαν την 11η Σεπτεμβρίου στην Ευρώπη. Κάτι τόσο δυσάρεστο ώστε οι πολίτες να πουν «Πώς επιτρέψαμε να συμβεί κάτι τέτοιο; Πώς κατάφερναν οι εγκληματικές συμμορίες να ξεφεύγουν από τη δικαιοσύνη για τόσο μεγάλο διάστημα, ενώ οι 27 εθνικές πρωτεύουσες επεδείκνυαν τέτοια αδράνεια;». Αν, όμως, οι εγκληματίες είναι έξυπνοι –και είναι πολύ έξυπνοι– δεν πρόκειται ποτέ να κάνουν τόσο ορατή τη δράση τους. Δεν θα καταφύγουν ποτέ σε μια 11η Σεπτεμβρίου και θα συνεχίσουν να διαβρώνουν την κοινωνία μας, να μας στερούν πόρους, να μας υπονομεύουν, να καταστρέφουν θέσεις απασχόλησης και, βασικά, να αποδυναμώνουν ολόκληρη την Ένωση. Επιβάλλεται να ληφθούν ουσιαστικά μέτρα, και ευελπιστώ ότι το Κοινοβούλιο θα στηρίξει την έκθεση αυτή και θα πιέσει τους υπουργούς να λάβουν αποφάσεις."@el10
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Señora Presidenta, lamento decirle que esto va a ser una historia trágica, de desgracias y problemas para Europa, porque la delincuencia organizada crece en todas partes, está oculta y no tenemos una imagen completa. Tiene la sede en Estados que no pertenecen a la UE, sobre todo allí donde el Gobierno es débil y por lo tanto se hace muy poco para detener a las bandas y los delincuentes que trabajan de forma organizada.
Me refiero a drogas como la heroína y la cocaína, que provienen de diferentes partes del mundo; al éxtasis, que se exporta de Europa a diversas partes del mundo; a los inmigrantes ilegales, que llegan de Asia y África sin los controles adecuados; al contrabando de los productos más inimaginables, desde simples juguetes o CD de música hasta cosas como medicamentos, que son muy graves y ponen en peligro la vida de las personas; y a los delitos en Internet, como el robo de dinero e identidad. En todos los ámbitos, la delincuencia crece y en todos los ámbitos cada uno de nosotros tiene, quizás, alguna pequeña experiencia.
Cada industria es consciente de los problemas de su propio sector, pero esconde las estadísticas porque no quiere mermar la confianza de los ciudadanos. Si un fabricante de bolsos dice: «Cuidado al comprar mis bonitos bolsos de piel porque pueden ser una falsificación de Extremo Oriente o de otras partes», está perjudicando sus perspectivas. Por eso nadie explica a los ciudadanos lo que realmente está ocurriendo.
Algunas bandas organizadas son familias étnicas que trabajan muy bien de forma estrechamente coordinada; algunas están ahora organizadas como si se tratara de grandes corporaciones multinacionales, muy eficientes. Esta misma semana he recibido incluso un organigrama de una banda criminal organizada. Cruzan las fronteras de la Unión con total impunidad y sin ninguna dificultad en absoluto. Ese es el problema: nuestra policía no puede cruzar ninguna frontera. Por eso los delincuentes van adónde quieren, y hacen lo que quieren, pero nuestra policía está limitada a sus propias regiones o sus Estados miembros y, por lo tanto, su capacidad se ve muy disminuida y no pueden luchar contra los delincuentes en igualdad de condiciones. ¿Qué hace un oficial de policía si detecta un problema al otro lado de la frontera? ¿Va a una central y consulta los datos de contacto en la guía telefónica? No hay guía. No hay ningún mecanismo para que un oficial de policía de un país encuentre el número de teléfono o la dirección de correo electrónico de un contacto adecuado en otro Estado miembro. Es increíble, una ausencia total de cooperación.
El motivo es la falta de confianza y entendimiento mutuos, lo que significa que, por costumbre, no queremos dar a extraños nuestra información ni revelar la fuente de nuestra información, porque así se descubrirían demasiados secretos. No confiamos unos en otros dentro de Europa. En cambio, las bandas confían perfectamente unas en otras, y por eso nos ganan sin problemas.
Pero no todo es trágico. Los estadounidenses, con sus fronteras abiertas entre Estados, tenían exactamente el mismo problema en los años treinta. Seguramente habrán visto ustedes la película
. Robaban bancos, cruzaban la frontera con el dinero y la policía no podía seguirles. Los estadounidenses inventaron el FBI con autoridad para cruzar fronteras, y sospecho que esa es la fase a la que hemos llegado ahora en Europa. Necesitamos un organismo policial que pueda perseguir a los delincuentes a través de las fronteras. El público se sentirá muy escéptico; los dirigentes nacionales no dicen nada al respecto, pero creo que hemos llegado a ese punto y tenemos que hacer algo al respecto.
Pero hoy, a este lado del Atlántico, en la Unión Europea, no hay estadísticas que digan a la población cuál es el alcance del problema. Cada uno de los 27 Estados miembros recoge estadísticas a su manera. No hay estadísticas comparativas de la UE, por lo que esperamos que la Comisión haga algo en este sentido para que podamos tenerlas dentro de pocos años. No tenemos ni idea, ni una imagen clara, ninguna información para los ciudadanos, ningún control democrático, porque entra en el tercer pilar y por lo tanto está controlado por los Gobiernos nacionales, que hacen muy poco porque no sienten ninguna presión por parte de la población para pasar a la acción.
Me temo que la única forma de conseguir un cambio es que haya un golpe dramático, algo así como el 11 de Septiembre, en Europa. Algo tan malo que la población diga: «¿Cómo es posible que eso ocurriera? ¿Cómo consiguieron las bandas criminales seguir con esto durante tanto tiempo, cuando en las 27 capitales nacionales estaban de brazos cruzados?» Pero si los criminales son inteligentes, y lo son, nunca saldrán a la luz. Nunca cometerán un 11 de Septiembre y simplemente seguirán corroyendo poco a poco nuestra sociedad, alimentándose a nuestra costa, debilitándonos, quitándonos puestos de trabajo y, básicamente, debilitando el conjunto de la Unión. Realmente necesitamos medidas y espero que el Parlamento apoye este informe y lleve a los Ministros a tomar algunas decisiones."@es21
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@et5
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Arvoisa puhemies, joudun valitettavasti toteamaan, että tilanne on kehittymässä murhenäytelmäksi, Euroopan unionin tyytymättömyyden ja ongelmien ilmentymäksi, sillä järjestäytynyt rikollisuus kehittyy kaikkialla silmiemme ulottumattomissa niin, ettemme saa kokonaiskuvaa tilanteesta. Järjestäytynyt rikollisuus toimii pääasiassa Euroopan unionin ulkopuolisista valtioista käsin, minkä vuoksi keinot järjestäytyneesti toimivien koplien ja rikollisten pysäyttämiseksi ovat hyvin rajalliset.
Viittaan tässä yhteydessä erityisesti huumausaineisiin, kuten heroiiniin ja kokaiiniin, joita tuodaan alueellemme maailman eri osista, sekä ekstaasiin, jota viedään Euroopasta eri puolille maailmaa. Viittaan myös laittomiin siirtolaisiin, joita kuljetetaan Aasiasta ja Afrikasta ilman asianmukaista valvontaa, sekä mitä erilaisimpiin väärennettyihin tuotteisiin sinänsä harmittomista leluista ja CD-levyistä aina lääkkeisiin, jotka ovat erittäin haitallisia ja hengenvaarallisia. Tarkoitan myös verkkorikollisuutta eli raha- ja identiteettivarkauksia. Rikollisuus lisääntyy kaikilla aloilla, ja jokaisella läsnäolijalla saattaa olla asiasta jonkinasteisia kokemuksia.
Jokainen teollisuudenala on tietoinen alakohtaisista ongelmista mutta pitää tilastotiedot salassa pyrkiessään välttämään yleisen luottamuksen menettämistä. Jos laukkuvalmistaja sanoo: "välttäkää näiden kauniiden nahkalaukkujen ostamista, sillä ne saattavat olla esimerkiksi Kaukoidässä valmistettuja kopioita", se heikentää omia mahdollisuuksiaan. Niinpä kukaan ei kerro julkisesti, mitä tosiasiassa tapahtuu.
Toiset järjestäytyneet rikolliskoplat ovat etnisiä perheitä, jotka toimivat hyvin tiiviissä yhteystyössä, kun taas toiset ovat järjestäytyneet nykyisin suurten ja erittäin tehokkaasti toimivien monikansallisten yritysten tavoin. Sain tällä viikolla eteeni jopa järjestäytyneen rikolliskoplan organisaatiokaavion. Nämä rikollisliigat tulevat aivan sumeilematta ja vaikeuksitta rajojen yli Euroopan unioniin. Ongelma on siinä, ettei poliisivoimiemme toimivalta ulotu rajojen yli. Rikolliset siis liikkuvat, minne haluavat, ja tekevät, mitä haluavat, mutta poliisin toimivalta on rajattu tietylle alueelle tai tiettyyn jäsenvaltioon, minkä vuoksi heidän kykynsä taistella tasavertaisesti rikollisten kanssa on hyvin rajallinen. Mitä yksittäiset poliisivirkailijat tekevät, jos jokin ongelma ulottuu rajan yli? Siirtyvätkö he keskusasemalle etsimään yhteystietoja puhelinluettelosta? Tällaista luetteloa ei ole olemassa. Tietyn maan poliiseilla ei ole valtuuksia eikä resursseja etsiä tarvittavan, toisessa maassa toimivan yhteyshenkilön puhelinnumeroa tai sähköpostiosoitetta. Yhteistyön täydellinen puuttuminen on kerrassaan uskomatonta.
Tähän on syynä keskinäisen luottamuksen ja ymmärryksen puute eli se, ettemme useinkaan halua luovuttaa tietojamme vierasmaalaisille taikka paljastaa tietolähteitämme liian monien salaisuuksien paljastamisen pelossa. Emme luota toisiimme Euroopassa. Rikolliskoplat puolestaan luottavat toisiinsa erinomaisesti, ja juuri siksi ne vievät helpon voiton.
Asiasta on kuitenkin löydettävissä myös myönteinen puoli. Sama ongelma esiintyi 1930-luvulla Yhdysvalloissa, jossa osavaltioiden väliset rajat olivat avoimet. Olette todennäköisesti nähneet elokuvan Bonnie ja Clyde. Kyseinen parivaljakko ryösti pankkeja ja kuljetti rahat osavaltioiden rajan yli toiseen osavaltioon, jonne poliisit eivät voineet heitä seurata. Yhdysvaltoihin perustettiin FBI, jonka toimivaltuudet ulottuvat rajojen yli, ja uskon, että olemme nyt vastaavan tilanteen edessä Euroopassa. Tarvitsemme lainvalvontaviraston, joka voi jäljittää rikollisia yli rajojen. Kansalaiset suhtautuvat tähän varmasti hyvin epäilevästi. Valtioiden johtajat eivät sano asiasta mitään, mutta mielestäni olemme tulleet pisteeseen, jossa meidän on tehtävä jotakin asian eteen.
Atlantin tällä puolen, Euroopan unionissa, ei kuitenkaan ole saatavana ajankohtaisia tilastotietoja, joiden avulla kansalaisille voitaisiin tiedottaa ongelman laajuudesta. Kaikki 27 jäsenvaltiota keräävät tilastotietoja omalla tavallaan, eikä vertailukelpoisia EU:n tilastotietoja ole. Toivommekin, että komission toimet mahdollistavat yhtenäisen tiedonkeruun käynnistämisen muutaman vuoden kuluessa. Meillä ei ole käsitystä eikä selkeää kuvaa tilanteesta, ei kansalaisille jaettavaa tietoa eikä liioin demokraattista valvontaa, sillä nämä ovat jäsenvaltioiden hallitusten valvonnassa olevan kolmannen pilarin asioita. Hallitusten toimet alalla ovat vähäisiä, sillä kansalaiset eivät painosta niitä ryhtymään toimenpiteisiin.
Pelkään, että ainoa mahdollisuutemme tähän tarjoutuu vain, jos Eurooppa joutuu kokemaan syyskuun 11. päivän kaltaisen järkyttävän tapahtuman. Tilanteen, joka on niin paha, että kansalaiset kysyvät: Miten tämän annettiin tapahtua? Miten rikolliskoplat pääsivät näin pitkään kuin koira veräjästä 27 jäsenvaltion pääkaupunkien ollessa näin joutilaina? Älykkäästi toimivat rikolliset – jollaisia rikolliset todellakin ovat – pysyttelevät aina näkymättömissä. He eivät koskaan syyllisty syyskuun 11. päivän kaltaisiin rikoksiin vaan syövyttävät hiljalleen yhteiskuntaamme, käyttävät meitä hyväkseen, vievät voimamme, ryöstävät työpaikkamme ja yleisesti ottaen heikentävät koko Euroopan unionia. Tilanne edellyttää toimenpiteitä, ja toivon, että parlamentti antaa tukensa mietinnölle ja vaatii ministereitä tekemään päätöksiä."@fi7
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Madame la Présidente, je suis désolé d’avoir à vous dire que mon discours sera un récit de malheurs, de tristesse et de problèmes en Europe, car la criminalité organisée gagne du terrain sur tous les fronts; elle est latente et nous ne pouvons nous en faire une image bien nette. Son QG est établi dans des pays situés majoritairement hors de l’UE, dans lesquels le gouvernement est faible et prend par conséquent peu de mesures pour mettre un terme aux activités des clans et des criminels qui agissent de manière organisée.
Je fais référence à la drogue telle que l’héroïne et la cocaïne, qui est importée de diverses régions du monde, et l’ecstasy, qui est exportée d’Europe vers différentes régions du monde; aux immigrés clandestins, qui viennent d’Asie et d’Afrique et franchissent nos frontières sans contrôle adéquat; à la contrefaçon, qui concerne toutes sortes de produits imaginables - allant de simples jouets ou CD musicaux à des produits tels que des médicaments, un type de contrefaçon extrêmement grave et dangereux pour la santé -; ou encore à la criminalité sur le web, à savoir le vol d’argent et d’identité. Dans tous les domaines, la criminalité prend de l’ampleur et peut-être que chacun d’entre nous y a déjà été confronté.
Chaque secteur industriel est conscient des problèmes rencontrés en son sein, mais ne dévoile pas les statistiques enregistrées, de peur de saper la confiance des citoyens. Si un fabricant de sacs vous dit: «Prenez garde lorsque vous achetez un de mes magnifiques sacs en cuir, parce qu’il pourrait s’agir d’un produit de contrefaçon venu d’Extrême-Orient ou d’ailleurs», il met en péril son avenir. Du coup, personne n’informe les citoyens de la situation.
Certains groupes organisés sont des familles ethniques fonctionnant très bien grâce aux liens extrêmement forts qui les unissent. Certains d’entre eux sont aujourd’hui organisés dans le style de très grandes multinationales très efficaces - cette semaine, j’ai même reçu un organigramme d’un groupe criminel organisé! Ces groupes franchissent les frontières de notre Union avec une grande aisance et sans la moindre difficulté. C’est là tout le problème: nos forces de police ne peuvent pas franchir les frontières. Par conséquent, les malfaiteurs vont où bon leur semble, font ce que bon leur semble, tandis que nos forces de police sont cantonnées à leur propre région ou leur propre État membre, ce qui les handicape considérablement et les empêche de lutter à armes égales avec les criminels. Que fait un agent de police si un problème surgit de l’autre côté de la frontière? Se rend-il dans une unité centrale afin d’y trouver des coordonnées dans un annuaire téléphonique? Il n’y a pas d’annuaire. Rien n’est prévu pour permettre à un agent de police de l’un ou l’autre pays d’obtenir le numéro de téléphone ou l’adresse électronique d’une personne de contact appropriée située dans un autre État membre. Une telle absence de collaboration - c’est incroyable!
Elle s’explique par le manque de confiance et de compréhension mutuelles, c’est-à-dire qu’habituellement, nous ne voulons pas partager nos informations avec des étrangers ni leur révéler nos sources, parce que nous serions alors obligés de divulguer beaucoup trop de secrets. Il n’existe pas de confiance mutuelle au sein de l’Europe. En revanche, les membres des groupes criminels s’accordent mutuellement une confiance extraordinaire et nous battent à plates coutures.
Quoi qu’il en soit, tout n’est pas que malheurs. Les États-Unis, dont les frontières intérieures sont ouvertes, ont rencontré exactement le même problème dans les années 30. Vous avez probablement vu le film
dans lequel les personnages dévalisent des banques et traversent la frontière de l’État voisin, où la police ne peut pas les poursuivre. Les Américains ont mis sur pied le FBI et l’ont doté de compétences transfrontalières. Je pense que nous avons à présent atteint ce stade en Europe. Nous avons besoin d’une autorité répressive apte à poursuivre les criminels par-delà les frontières. Cette idée laissera les citoyens sceptiques; les dirigeants nationaux gardent le silence, mais je pense que nous en sommes arrivés à ce stade, et nous devons faire quelque chose.
Il n’en reste pas moins que, de ce côté-ci de l’Atlantique, l’Union européenne ne possède pas à ce jour de statistiques pour informer les citoyens de l’ampleur du problème. Chacun des 27 États membres collecte des données selon une méthode qui lui est propre. Il n’existe aucune donnée européenne comparative et nous espérons de ce fait que la Commission travaille actuellement à l’instauration d’un système permettant l’obtention de ce type de statistiques d’ici quelques années. Nous n’avons aucune idée, aucune idée précise de la situation, aucune information à soumettre au public, aucun contrôle démocratique, parce que ce domaine relève du troisième pilier et, partant, des gouvernements nationaux, qui se contentent de mesures très restreintes, car les citoyens ne les pressent pas d’agir.
Je crains que seul un choc dramatique, de type 11 septembre, en Europe ne soit capable de provoquer un changement. Une chose tellement atroce que la population s’écriera: «Comment avons-nous pu laisser faire ça? Comment ces groupes criminels ont-ils pu passer entre les mailles du filet pendant si longtemps sans que les 27 capitales nationales ne bronchent?» Si les criminels sont intelligents - et ils sont très intelligents -, ils n’agiront jamais au grand jour. Ils ne commettront jamais un attentat de type 11 septembre, mais continueront tout simplement à gangrener notre société, à nous parasiter, à nous miner, à prendre nos emplois et, globalement, à affaiblir l’Union dans son ensemble. Nous devons vraiment agir, et j’espère que le Parlement soutiendra ce rapport et pressera les ministres de prendre des décisions."@fr8
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@hu11
"Signora Presidente, mi dispiace annunciarvi che sarà una storia di dolore, d’infelicità e di problemi per l’Europa, perché la criminalità organizzata sta crescendo in ogni campo, agisce nell’ombra e non disponiamo di un quadro completo. Ha le sue basi soprattutto in Stati al di fuori dell’Unione europea, dove il governo è debole e quindi è molto scarsa l’azione rivolta a fermare le bande e i criminali che lavorano in modo organizzato.
Mi riferisco a droghe come eroina e cocaina, importate da diverse regioni del mondo; all’
che è esportata dall’Europa in varie regioni del mondo; agli immigranti clandestini, che vengono portati dall’Asia e dall’Africa senza controlli; a prodotti contraffatti di ogni genere immaginabile, in alcuni casi solo semplici giocattoli o CD musicali, ma in altri casi si tratta anche di farmaci, prodotti estremamente seri e pericolosi per la vita; e ai crimini su
il furto di denaro e d’identità. In ogni settore la criminalità sta crescendo, e in ogni settore, forse, tutti abbiamo una piccola esperienza.
Ogni industria è consapevole dei problemi nel proprio settore, ma tiene nascoste le statistiche perché non vuole compromettere la fiducia pubblica. Se un fabbricante di borse dice: “Fate attenzione a comprare la mia bella borsa di cuoio perché potrebbe essere una contraffazione proveniente dall’Estremo Oriente o altrove”, danneggia le proprie prospettive. Nessuno quindi dice ai cittadini cosa sta realmente accadendo.
Alcune bande organizzate sono famiglie etniche che lavorano molto bene, in modo rigorosamente organizzato; alcune sono organizzate come società per azioni multinazionali molto grandi e molto efficienti – questa settimana mi è stato fornito persino un organigramma di una banda criminale organizzata! Attraversano i confini all’interno della nostra Unione con totale disinvoltura e senza alcuna difficoltà. Ecco il problema: la nostra polizia non può attraversare i confini. Quindi, i criminali vanno ovunque vogliono, fanno quello che vogliono, ma la nostra polizia è limitata alle rispettive regioni o ai rispettivi Stati membri: è quindi profondamente penalizzata e non può lottare alla pari contro i criminali. Cosa fanno i singoli agenti di polizia se c’è un problema che interessa il confine? Si recano in un nucleo centrale e cercano chi contattare sull’elenco telefonico? Non esiste un elenco. Non esiste una struttura in cui un agente di polizia in qualsiasi paese possa trovare un numero telefonico o un indirizzo
per un contatto appropriato in un altro Stato membro. E’ incredibile: una mancanza totale di cooperazione.
La ragione di questo è la mancanza di fiducia e di comprensione reciproca, il che significa che, tradizionalmente, non vogliamo fornire agli stranieri le nostre informazioni né rivelarne la fonte, perché ciò svelerebbe troppi segreti. Non abbiamo fiducia reciproca in Europa. Le bande invece hanno una grande fiducia reciproca e così vincono senza fatica.
Non tutto però è negativo. Gli americani, con i loro confini aperti tra gli Stati, incontrarono esattamente lo stesso problema negli anni ’30. Probabilmente avete visto il film
I protagonisti svaligiavano banche, attraversavano con il bottino un confine di Stato e la polizia non poteva seguirli. Gli americani inventarono l’FBI con il potere di attraversare i confini, e sospetto che questa sia la fase alla quale siamo arrivati oggi in Europa. Abbiamo bisogno di un’agenzia di polizia che possa perseguire i criminali attraverso le frontiere. I cittadini saranno molto scettici; i
nazionali non dicono nulla in proposito, ma penso che siamo giunti a quel punto e che dobbiamo intervenire.
Comunque, oggi su questo lato dell’Atlantico, nell’Unione europea non esistono statistiche per informare i cittadini circa l’entità del problema. Ognuno dei 27 Stati membri raccoglie i dati statistici in un modo diverso. Non esistono dati statistici comunitari comparati; speriamo quindi che la Commissione stia lavorando in quella direzione affinché tra qualche anno tali dati siano disponibili. Non abbiamo idea, non abbiamo un quadro chiaro, né informazioni per i cittadini, né un controllo democratico, perché questo rientra nel terzo pilastro ed è quindi di competenza dei governi nazionali, che fanno molto poco perché non percepiscono alcuna pressione da parte dei cittadini ad agire.
L’unico modo in cui otterremo un cambiamento, temo, è con uno
drammatico, qualcosa come l’11 settembre in Europa. Qualcosa di così terribile che i cittadini diranno: “Come si è potuto permettere che accadesse? Come hanno fatto i criminali a farla franca così a lungo mentre nelle 27 capitali nazionali c’era una tale inerzia?” Ma, se i criminali sono intelligenti – e sono molto intelligenti – non usciranno mai allo scoperto. Non commetteranno mai un 11 settembre e continueranno semplicemente a mangiare nella nostra società, appropriandosi delle nostre risorse, indebolendoci, sottraendoci posti di lavoro e, fondamentalmente, indebolendo l’intera Unione. Abbiamo davvero bisogno di azione e spero che il Parlamento sosterrà questa relazione e spingerà i ministri a prendere decisioni."@it12
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@lt14
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@lv13
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@mt15
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Mevrouw de Voorzitter, ik moet u tot mijn spijt zeggen dat dit een somber verhaal gaat worden, een verhaal over ellende en over problemen voor Europa, omdat de georganiseerde criminaliteit op alle gebieden toeneemt, en omdat ze in het verborgene werkt en wij er geen volledig beeld van hebben. Ze opereert grotendeels vanuit buiten de EU gelegen staten die een zwakke overheid hebben en waar dus zeer weinig gebeurt om een halt toe te roepen aan de bendes en de criminelen die in een georganiseerd verband te werk gaan.
Ik heb het hier over drugs zoals heroïne en cocaïne, die vanuit verschillende delen van de wereld naar Europa worden gebracht; over XTC, dat vanuit Europa naar verschillende delen van de wereld wordt uitgevoerd; over illegale immigranten, die hierheen worden gebracht vanuit Azië en Afrika zonder dat er behoorlijke controles plaatsvinden; over namaakgoederen in alle kleuren en maten, variërend van simpel speelgoed of muziek-cd’s tot artikelen als geneesmiddelen – wat een uitermate ernstige en levensbedreigende zaak is – en over criminaliteit op het internet: het stelen van geld en identiteiten. Op alle gebieden neemt de criminaliteit toe en op alle gebieden heeft ieder van ons misschien wel enige ervaring.
Elke bedrijfstak is zich bewust van de problemen in zijn eigen sector, maar houdt de statistieken geheim uit vrees het vertrouwen van het publiek te beschadigen. Als een fabrikant van tassen zegt: “Let goed op voordat je mijn prachtige leren tas koopt, want misschien is het wel namaak uit het Verre Oosten of ergens anders vandaan”, dan bederft hij zijn vooruitzichten. Dus vertelt niemand de burgers wat er werkelijk aan de hand is.
Sommige georganiseerde bendes bestaan uit etnische families die zeer effectief en nauw samenwerken, andere worden tegenwoordig georganiseerd als uitermate efficiënte, zeer grote multinationals – ik heb deze week zelfs een organigram van een criminele organisatie gekregen! Ze steken met het grootste gemak en zonder ook maar enig probleem de grenzen binnen onze Unie over. En hier wringt de schoen: onze politie kan geen grenzen oversteken. De criminelen gaan dus waar ze maar willen en doen ondertussen wat ze doen, maar onze politie moet binnen haar eigen regio of lidstaat blijven, waardoor zij ernstig belemmerd wordt en de criminelen niet op gelijke voet kan bestrijden. Wat doen individuele politiefunctionarissen als er een probleem aan de andere kant van de grens is? Gaan ze naar een centraal punt waar ze contactgegevens uit het telefoonboek halen? Er is geen telefoonboek. Er is geen voorziening voor een politiefunctionaris uit een lidstaat die een telefoonnummer of e-mailadres wil vinden van een geschikte contactpersoon in een andere lidstaat. Het is niet te geloven – een volkomen gebrek aan samenwerking.
De reden hiervoor is het gebrek aan wederzijds vertrouwen en begrip, wat wil zeggen dat we van oudsher niet onze informatie aan buitenlanders willen geven of hun de bron van onze informatie willen onthullen, omdat we daarmee te veel geheimen zouden prijsgeven. We hebben binnen Europa geen vertrouwen in elkaar. De bendes daarentegen hebben een bewonderenswaardig vertrouwen in elkaar en dus winnen ze op hun sloffen.
Het is echter niet alleen maar kommer en kwel. De Amerikanen, met hun open grenzen tussen de staten, stuitten in de jaren dertig van de vorig eeuw op precies hetzelfde probleem. U heeft waarschijnlijk de film ‘Bonnie and Clyde’ wel gezien. Bonnie en Clyde beroofden banken, namen het geld mee de staatsgrens over en de politie kon hen daar niet volgen. De Amerikanen riepen de FBI in het leven en gaven daaraan grensoverschrijdende bevoegdheden, en ik vermoed dat dit het stadium is dat wij nu in Europa hebben bereikt. Wij hebben een orgaan voor wetshandhaving nodig dat criminelen over grenzen heen kan achtervolgen. Het publiek zal uiterst sceptisch zijn, de nationale leiders doen er het zwijgen toe, maar ik denk dat wij dat punt bereikt hebben en dat we tot maatregelen moeten overgaan.
Vandaag de dag, aan deze kant van de Atlantische Oceaan, in de Europese Unie, zijn er echter geen statistieken die het publiek de omvang van het probleem laten zien. Elk van de 27 lidstaten verzamelt statistieken op zijn eigen manier. Er zijn geen vergelijkende EU-statistieken, en we hopen dus dat de Commissie daaraan werkt zodat we binnen een paar jaar over zulke statistieken kunnen beschikken. We hebben geen idee, geen helder beeld, geen informatie voor het publiek, geen democratische controle, omdat dit onder de derde pijler valt en dus onder de bevoegdheid van de nationale regeringen, die erg weinig doen omdat ze geen druk vanuit het publiek voelen om actie te ondernemen.
Het enige dat een verandering teweeg zal brengen, is, vrees ik, een dramatische schok, zoiets als 11 september in Europa. Iets dat zó erg is dat het publiek zegt: “Hoe heeft dit kunnen gebeuren? Hoe is het mogelijk dat de criminele bendes zo lang hun gang hebben kunnen gaan en er in de 27 nationale hoofdsteden zo weinig gedaan werd?” Maar als de criminelen slim zijn – en ze zijn heel slim – dan zullen ze altijd op de achtergrond blijven. Ze zullen nooit een aanslag zoals die van 11 september plegen en ze zullen gewoon blijven knagen aan onze samenleving, ons blijven leegzuigen, ons blijven verzwakken, banen blijven wegkapen en eigenlijk de hele Unie blijven verzwakken. We moeten echt in actie komen en ik hoop dat het Parlement dit verslag zal steunen en de ministers zal dwingen een paar besluiten te nemen."@nl3
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@pl16
"Senhora Presidente, lamento informá-la de vou aqui fazer uma enumeração de tristezas, de infortúnios, de problemas que pesam sobre a Europa, pois a criminalidade organizada está a crescer em todos os domínios, actua de forma encoberta e é um fenómeno de que não conhecemos o panorama global. O crime organizado tem as suas bases em países fora da UE, mormente países onde o governo é fraco e onde, por conseguinte, poucas são as acções de combate a gangs de traficantes e criminosos que operam de forma organizada.
Estou a pensar no tráfico de drogas como a heroína e a cocaína, trazidas de várias partes do mundo para a Europa; no
que é exportado da Europa para vários pontos do globo; nos imigrantes clandestinos, que são trazidos da Ásia e da África sem os controlos adequados; nos artigos de contrafacção de todo o tipo imaginável, alguns deles simples brinquedos ou CD de música mas também outras coisas, como medicamentos, o que é extremamente grave e pode pôr em risco a própria vida; e no crime na Internet – o roubo de dinheiro e da identidade. A criminalidade cresce em todos os domínios e, em cada domínio, cada um de nós terá, porventura, alguma experiência, ainda que pouca.
Cada operador da indústria tem consciência dos problemas no seu próprio sector, mas guarda estas informações para si, pois não quer pôr em causa a confiança da opinião pública. Se um vendedor de malas disser "Pense duas vezes antes de comprar a linda mala em pele à venda na minha loja, pois pode ser uma imitação vinda do Médio Oriente ou de outro ponto do globo", compromete o seu negócio. Por conseguinte, ninguém diz aos consumidores o que realmente se passa.
Alguns gangs organizados são famílias étnicas que, formando entre si uma malha apertada, trabalham com grande eficácia. Há os que se encontram hoje organizados como grandes corporações multinacionais e são extremamente eficientes – esta semana entregaram-me o organigrama de um gangue criminoso organizado! Estes criminosos atravessam as fronteiras no interior da nossa União com total à vontade e sem a menor dificuldade. É aqui que reside o problema: a nossa polícia não pode transpor quaisquer fronteiras. Assim, os criminosos vão onde querem e fazem o que bem lhes apetece, ao passo que as nossas forças policiais estão confinadas, têm de limitar-se à sua própria região ou ao seu próprio Estado-Membro, vendo-se por conseguinte extremamente coarctadas na sua acção e impossibilitadas de combater os criminosos em pé de igualdade. O que podem os agentes de polícia fazer se houver um problema transfronteiriço? Dirigem-se a um ponto central onde podem obter os necessários contactos a partir de uma lista telefónica? Não existe tal lista telefónica. Não existe um meio através do qual um agente de polícia de qualquer país da União possa obter o número de telefone ou o endereço electrónico de um contacto adequado noutro Estado-Membro. É inacreditável – há uma total ausência de cooperação!
A razão de ser disto é a falta de confiança mútua, de compreensão, que tem levado a que, tradicionalmente, nos furtemos a divulgar informações ou a fonte das nossas informações a estrangeiros, por acharmos que isso seria divulgar muitos segredos. Na União Europeia, não confiamos uns nos outros. Os gangs confiam maravilhosamente uns nos outros, e por isso levam a melhor em relação a nós, sem grande esforço.
Mas nem tudo são tristezas, Senhora Presidente. Os Americanos, com as suas fronteiras abertas entre estados, depararam com exactamente o mesmo problema na década de 1930. Terá visto, porventura, o filme
. Eles roubavam os bancos e levavam o dinheiro para outros estados, e a polícia via-se impossibilitada de os perseguir. Os Americanos inventaram então o FBI, com poderes precisamente para atravessar fronteiras, e eu desconfio que é esse o ponto onde agora chegámos na Europa. Precisamos de um serviço de aplicação da lei que possa perseguir os criminosos de um Estado-Membro para outro. A opinião pública encarará isto com cepticismo, os dirigentes nacionais não falam no assunto, mas eu acho que chegámos a esse ponto e que temos de fazer alguma coisa a esse respeito.
No entanto, actualmente, deste lado do Atlântico, na União Europeia, não existem estatísticas para informar a opinião pública sobre qual a dimensão do problema. Cada um dos 27 Estados-Membros recolhe as suas estatísticas, à sua maneira. Não existem estatísticas comparáveis, a nível da UE, pelo que esperamos que a Comissão esteja a trabalhar nesse sentido, para, dentro de alguns anos, dispormos desses dados. Não fazemos a menor ideia, não temos um quadro claro, não dispomos de informações para transmitir aos cidadãos, não há controlo democrático, pois tudo isto se inscreve no âmbito do terceiro pilar e é, por conseguinte, controlado pelos governos nacionais, que pouco fazem pois não se sentem pressionados pela opinião pública para tomar medidas.
A única forma de conseguirmos uma mudança, receio eu, é se acontecer um choque dramático, algo como o 11 de Setembro, na Europa. Algo tão terrível que a opinião pública se questione: "Como pôde isto acontecer? Como é que os grupos criminosos conseguiram levar a sua avante durante tanto tempo, quando existia tanta inactividade em 27 capitais nacionais?". Contudo, se os criminosos forem inteligentes – e eles são-no de facto – nunca irão além de um determinado limite. Nunca hão-de cometer um 11 de Setembro, antes continuarão a infiltrar-se na nossa sociedade, a viver à nossa custa, a enfraquecer-nos, a suprimir postos de trabalho e, no fundo, a debilitar a União Europeia no seu conjunto. Portanto, precisamos urgentemente de medidas, e espero que o Parlamento apoie este relatório e pressione os ministros a tomar decisões."@pt17
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@ro18
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@sk19
"Madam President, I am sorry to tell you this is going to be a tale of woe, of unhappiness and of problems for Europe, because organised crime is growing in every field, it is hidden and we do not have a full picture. It is based in states outside the EU, mostly, where government is weak and therefore there is very little action to stop the gangs and the criminals who are working in an organised way.
I am referring to drugs like heroin and cocaine, which are brought in from different parts of the world; to ecstasy, which is exported from Europe to different parts of the world; to illegal immigrants, who are brought in from Asia and Africa without proper controls; to counterfeit goods of every imaginable kind, some just simple toys or music CDs but also some things like medicines, which are deeply serious and life-threatening; and to crime on the internet – the theft of money and identity. In every area, crime is growing and in every area we each have, maybe, some small experience.
Every industry is aware of the problems in its own sector, but it keeps the statistics hidden because it does not want to damage public confidence. If a bag manufacturer says, ‘Be careful about buying my beautiful leather bag because it may be a fake from the Far East or elsewhere,’ they damage their prospects. So, nobody tells the public what is really going on.
Some organised gangs are ethnic families working very well in a tightly-knit way; some are now organised like very efficient, very big multinational corporations – this week I was even given an organisational chart for an organised criminal gang! They cross the borders inside our Union with total ease and without any difficulty at all. Here is the problem: our police cannot cross any borders. So, the criminals are going wherever they like, doing whatever they do, but our police are restricted to their own regions or their own Member States and therefore are deeply handicapped and cannot fight the criminals on equal terms. What do individual police officers do if there is a problem across the border? Do they go to a central point and get contact details from the telephone directory? There is no directory. There is no facility for a police officer in any one country to find a telephone number or an e-mail address for an appropriate contact in another Member State. It is unbelievable – a total lack of cooperation.
The reason for this is the lack of mutual trust and understanding, meaning that, traditionally, we do not want to give foreigners our information or reveal the source of our information, because that would give away too many secrets. We do not trust each other inside Europe. The gangs trust each other beautifully and so they are winning hands down.
It is not all woe. The Americans, with their open borders between states, found exactly the same problem in the 1930s. You probably saw the film
. They robbed banks, took the money across a state border and the police could not follow them. The Americans invented the FBI with powers to cross borders, and I suspect that is the stage we have now reached in Europe. We need a law enforcement agency that can pursue criminals across frontiers. The public will be very sceptical; the national leaders say nothing about it, but I think we have reached that point and we have to do something about it.
Today, however, on this side of the Atlantic, in the European Union, there are no statistics to tell the public the scale of the problem. Each of the 27 Member States collects statistics in its own different way. There are no comparative EU statistics, so we hope that the Commission is working in that direction to start that happening in a few years’ time. We have no idea, no clear picture, no information for the public, no democratic control, because this comes under the third pillar and is therefore controlled by the national governments, who do very little because they do not feel any pressure from the public to take any action.
The only way that we will get a change, I fear, is if there is a dramatic shock, something like 9/11 in Europe. Something so bad that the public says, ‘How was this allowed to happen? How did the criminal gangs get away with this for so long when there was so much inactivity in 27 national capitals?’ But, if the criminals are smart – and they are very smart – they will never come up above the horizon. They will never commit a 9/11 and they will just go on eating into our society, feeding off us, weakening us, taking away jobs and, basically, weakening the whole Union. We really need action, and I hope Parliament will support this report and push the ministers into taking some decisions."@sl20
"Fru talman! Jag beklagar med det jag har att säga kommer att bli en veklagan om elände och problem för EU, eftersom organiserad brottslighet ökar inom alla områden, den är dold och vi har inte hela bilden klar för oss. Brottsligheten har sin bas i stater utanför EU, oftast där regeringarna är svaga och där det görs mycket lite för att stoppa ligor och brottslingar som arbetar på ett organiserat sätt.
Jag tänker på narkotika som heroin och kokain, som förs in från olika delar av världen, på ecstasy, som exporteras från Europa till olika delar av världen, på illegala invandrare som förs hit från Asien och Afrika utan ordentliga kontroller, på förfalskningar av varje upptänkligt slag, som t.ex. enkla leksaker eller musik-CD-skivor men även sådant som läkemedel, vilket är mycket allvarligt och livshotande, och på brottslighet på internet – stölder av pengar och identiteter. Inom varje område ökar brottsligheten och inom varje område har vi kanske alla någon liten erfarenhet.
Varje bransch är medveten om problemen inom sin sektor men håller statistiken hemlig eftersom man inte vill rubba allmänhetens förtroende. Om en väsktillverkare säger ”Var uppmärksam när du köper mina vackra skinnväska eftersom den kan vara en förfalskning från Fjärranöstern eller någon annanstans ifrån”, skadar det tillverkarens intressen. Därför talar ingen om för allmänheten vad som egentligen pågår.
En del organiserade ligor är etniska familjer som arbetar mycket bra på ett tätt sammanknutet sätt. En del har nu organiserat sig på samma sätt som mycket effektiva och mycket stora multinationella företag – i veckan fick jag till och med en organisationstablå för en kriminell liga. De tar sig med lätthet över gränserna in i vår union utan några svårigheter alls. Det här är problemet: Vår polis kan inte korsa några gränser. Därför färdas de kriminella vart de vill, gör vad det nu är de gör, medan vår polis är begränsad till sina egna regioner eller sina egna medlemsstater och är därför starkt handikappad och kan inte bekämpa brottslingarna på lika villkor. Vad gör enskilda polismän om det uppstår problem på andra sidan gränsen? Tar de sig till en central punkt och skaffar sig kontaktinformation från telefonkatalogen? Det finns ingen katalog. Det finns inga anordningar som gör att en polismän i något land kan hitta ett telefonnummer eller en e-postadress till en lämplig kontaktperson i en annan medlemsstat. Det är otroligt – en total avsaknad av samarbete.
Anledningen till detta är en brist på ömsesidigt förtroende och förståelse, som gör att vi inte brukar vilja ge utlänningar vår information eller röja källan till den eftersom det skulle innebära att skänka bort alltför många hemligheter. Vi litar inte på varandra inom EU. Ligorna litar alldeles förträffligt på varandra och vinner därför med lätthet.
Det är inte bara bedrövelse. Amerikanarna med sina öppna gränserna mellan delstaterna hade exakt samma problem på 1930-talet. Ni har förmodligen sett filmen
. De rånade banker, tog pengarna över delstatsgränsen och polisen kunde inte förfölja dem. Amerikanarna uppfann FBI med befogenheter att korsa gränserna och jag misstänker att det är det stadium vi nu har nått inom EU. Vi behöver ett brottsbekämpande organ som kan förfölja brottslingarna tvärs över gränserna. Allmänheten kommer att vara mycket skeptisk. Nationella ledare säger inget om det men jag tror att vi har nått den punkten och att vi måste göra något åt det.
I dag på den här sidan Atlanten, i Europeiska unionen, finns det dock ingen statistik som berättar för allmänheten om vidden av problemet. Var och en av de 27 medlemsstaterna samlar in statistik på sitt eget vis. Det finns ingen jämförbar EU-statistik, och vi hoppas därför att kommissionen arbetar för att det ska börja ske något inom ett par års tid. Vi har ingen uppfattning, ingen klar bild, ingen information till allmänheten, ingen demokratisk styrning, eftersom detta faller under den tredje pelaren och därför styrs av de nationella regeringarna, som gör mycket lite eftersom de inte känner något tryck från allmänheten att vidta några åtgärder.
Jag är rädd för att det enda sättet att få till stånd en förändring är om det inträffar en dramatisk sammanstötning, någonting i stil med 11 september i Europa. Något så allvarligt att allmänheten skulle säga: ”Hur kunde detta tillåtas ske? Hur kunde dessa kriminella ligor komma undan med detta under så lång tid när det fanns så mycket inaktivitet i 27 huvudstäder?” Men om brottslingarna är smarta – och de är mycket smarta – dyker de aldrig upp över horisonten. De kommer aldrig att begå ett 11 september. De kommer bara att fortsätta att borra sig in i vårt samhälle, livnära sig på oss, försvaga oss, ta över våra jobb och framför allt försvaga hela unionen. Vi behöver verkligen åtgärder och jag hoppas att parlamentet kommer att stödja detta betänkande och trycka på ministrarna att fatta beslut."@sv22
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