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"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@en4
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"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@cs1
"Hr. formand! Kommissæren påpegede under sin redegørelse, at hun håbede, at Parlamentet ville bakke kraftigt op om tiltag på dette område. Jeg vil gerne gøre det klart på vegne af min gruppe, at vi glæder os over offentliggørelsen af grønbogen, og vi ser frem til offentliggørelsen af hvidbogen. Vi mener ikke, at borgernes rettigheder på dette område anvendes korrekt, og vi ønsker bestemt at sikre, at der gøres mere på dette område end i dag.
Som påpeget af kommissæren er vi imidlertid nødt til at sikre en fin balance, ikke mindst af de årsager, som hr. Doorn har redegjort for, og på baggrund af udfaldet af høringen organiseret af hr. Sánchez Presedo, hvor vi brugte en halv dag på at overveje disse vanskelige spørgsmål.
Jeg betragter personligt i høj grad fremskridt på dette område som en integreret del af hele Kommissionens dagsorden for modernisering af konkurrencepolitikken, og ingen bør derfor være i tvivl om, at vi støtter yderlige tiltag fra Kommissionens side.
Som kommissæren påpegede, er såvel medlemsstaternes regeringer som erhvervslivet imidlertid stærkt opsat på at undgå amerikanske tilstande. Det er ikke tilstrækkeligt blot at sige, at "vi ikke vil indføre de samme foranstaltninger som i USA", navnlig når hr. Sánchez Presedo efter endog meget nøje overvejelse af spørgsmålet i sin betænkning fremlægger en række forslag til løsning af så at sige alle disse problemer gennem ændring af bevisbyrden, indførelse af skadeserstatninger, der har karakter af straffesanktion - i det mindste i forbindelse med karteller - og sagsanlæg uden omkostninger, sammenblanding mellem EU's beføjelser og nationale beføjelser, ændring af oplysningskravene og vurdering af sagsomkostningerne uden hensyntagen til principperne om subsidiaritet og proportionalitet og et eventuelt retsgrundlag.
Når folk spørger, hvorfor vi er bekymret over denne betænkning, er det således fordi der er tale om et overpyntet juletræ. Vi går ind for en åbning på dette område, men vi går bestemt ikke ind for at fremme en proces, der kan føre til amerikanske tilstande, hvilket er imod Kommissionens ønsker og imod de ønsker, der er blevet udtrykt af alle de medlemmer, der har været involveret i udarbejdelsen af denne betænkning."@da2
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Herr Präsident! Die Kommissarin hat in ihrem Beitrag erklärt, sie hoffe, dass das Parlament seine nachdrückliche Unterstützung für Maßnahmen in diesem Bereich bekundet. Ich will im Namen meiner Fraktion klarstellen, dass wir die Veröffentlichung des Grünbuchs begrüßen und der Veröffentlichung des Weißbuchs erwartungsvoll entgegensehen. Unserer Meinung nach werden die Rechte der Bürger in diesem Bereich nicht korrekt angewendet, und wir wollen ganz sicher dafür sorgen, dass mehr getan wird als gegenwärtig.
Doch wie die Kommissarin selbst gesagt hat, muss man dabei sorgfältig abwägen, nicht zuletzt aus den von Herrn Doorn dargelegten Gründen und wegen der von Herrn Sánchez Presedo organisierten Anhörung, bei der wir einen halben Tag lang über diese schwierigen Fragen beraten haben.
Ich persönlich trete sehr nachdrücklich für Fortschritte in diesem Bereich ein, der Bestandteil der Gesamtagenda der Kommission für die Modernisierung der Wettbewerbspolitik ist. Es sollte also niemand an unserer Unterstützung für künftige Maßnahmen der Kommission zweifeln.
Aber wie die Kommissarin deutlich gemacht hat, liegt sowohl den Regierungen der Mitgliedstaaten als auch der Unternehmerschaft sehr daran, die Erfahrungen der USA zu vermeiden. Es ist nicht genug zu sagen: „Wir werden nicht wiederholen, was die Vereinigten Staaten getan haben“, vor allem, wenn, das muss man sagen, nach umfassender und ausführlicher Prüfung der Problematik im Bericht von Sánchez Presedo empfohlen wird, all diese Schwierigkeiten sozusagen zu lösen, indem die Beweislast verändert wird, Strafschadenersatz – zumindest bei Kartellen – und kostenlose Verfahren eingeführt werden, gemeinschaftliche und nationale Zuständigkeiten vermengt werden, die Regeln in Bezug auf die Offenlegung verändert werden und aus der Abschätzung des Kosten dieses Rechtsverfahrens alle Prinzipien bezüglich Subsidiarität, Verhältnismäßigkeit oder dem Vorhandensein einer ordnungsgemäßen Rechtsgrundlage ausgeschlossen werden.
Wenn also jemand fragt, warum wir wegen dieses Berichts besorgt sind, dann ist die Antwort, weil er ein Weihnachtsbaum geworden ist, an dem zu viele Kugeln hängen. Wir sind dafür, dass die Tür aufgestoßen wird, aber wir sind auf keinen Fall dafür, dass ein Prozess gefördert wird, der uns auf den US-amerikanischen Weg führen könnte, was den Wünschen der Kommission und den Wünschen all derjenigen, die an diesem Bericht gearbeitet haben, widersprechen würde."@de9
"Κύριε Πρόεδρε, η Επίτροπος επεσήμανε στην εισαγωγική της ομιλία ότι προσέβλεπε στο Κοινοβούλιο, προκειμένου να αποστείλει ένα ισχυρό μήνυμα υποστήριξης της δράσης στον εν λόγω τομέα. Θέλω να καταστήσω σαφές, εξ ονόματος της ομάδας μου, ότι χαιρετίζουμε τη δημοσίευση της Πράσινης Βίβλου και ότι αναμένουμε με ενδιαφέρον τη δημοσίευση της Λευκής Βίβλου. Πιστεύουμε ότι τα δικαιώματα των ανθρώπων σε αυτόν τον τομέα δεν εφαρμόζονται δεόντως και, ασφαλώς, επιθυμούμε να διασφαλίσουμε ότι θα γίνουν περισσότερα από ό,τι γίνεται επί του παρόντος.
Εντούτοις, όπως επισήμανε η ίδια η Επίτροπος, αυτό πρόκειται να απαιτήσει μια λεπτή ισορροπία, αν μη τι άλλο για τους λόγους που περιέγραψε ο κ. Doorn, και λόγω της ακρόασης που διοργανώθηκε από τον κ. Sánchez Presedo, στην οποία αφιέρωσε μισή ημέρα για την εξέταση αυτών των δύσκολων θεμάτων.
Καθ’ όσον αφορά εμένα, είμαι πολύ αφοσιωμένος στο να θεωρώ την πρόοδο στον εν λόγω τομέα ως αναπόσπαστο τμήμα του συνόλου της ατζέντας της Επιτροπής από την άποψη του εκσυγχρονισμού της πολιτικής ανταγωνισμού· συνεπώς, ας μην αμφιβάλει κανείς για το ότι ενθαρρύνουμε την ανάληψη περαιτέρω δράσης από την Επιτροπή.
Εντούτοις, όπως κατέστησε σαφές η Επίτροπος, τόσο μεταξύ των κυβερνήσεων των κρατών μελών όσο και στους κόλπους της επιχειρηματικής κοινότητας, υπάρχει πραγματική ανησυχία για την αποφυγή των εμπειριών των Ηνωμένων Πολιτειών. Δεν αρκεί απλώς να λέμε «δεν πρόκειται να κάνουμε αυτά που έκαναν οι Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες», ιδίως όταν, πρέπει να ειπωθεί, δίνοντας ιδιαίτερη προσοχή στο θέμα, η έκθεση του κ. Sánchez Presed αποσκοπεί στην επίλυση, ούτως ειπείν, όλων αυτών των δυσκολιών μεταθέτοντας το βάρος της απόδειξης, θεσπίζοντας αποζημιώσεις με χαρακτήρα κυρώσεως –τουλάχιστον σε σχέση με τα καρτέλ– και δωρεάν δικαστική παράσταση, συγχέοντας τις κοινοτικές και τις εθνικές αρμοδιότητες, αλλάζοντας τους κανόνες ως προς τη γνωστοποίηση και παραλείποντας από την εκτίμηση του κόστους των δικαστικών προσφυγών όλες τις αρχές που σχετίζονται με την επικουρικότητα, την αναλογικότητα ή το κατά πόσον υπάρχει κατάλληλη νομική βάση.
Ως εκ τούτου, όταν οι άνθρωποι ρωτούν για ποιον λόγο ανησυχούμε γι’ αυτήν την έκθεση, είναι επειδή έχει εξελιχθεί σε ένα χριστουγεννιάτικο δένδρο με πάρα πολλές κρεμαστές καμπανούλες. Υποστηρίζουμε το άνοιγμα της πόρτας, ασφαλώς δεν υποστηρίζουμε την ενθάρρυνση της διαδικασίας η οποία ενδέχεται να μας οδηγήσει στην ατραπό των ΗΠΑ, ενάντια στις επιθυμίες της Επιτροπής και τις επιθυμίες όλων αυτών που έχουν εργαστεί γι’ αυτήν την έκθεση."@el10
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Señor Presidente, la Comisaria ha indicado en su intervención que esperaba que el Parlamento respaldase firmemente la adopción de medidas en este terreno. Quisiera dejar claro, en nombre de mi Grupo, que celebramos la publicación del Libro Verde y esperamos con interés la publicación del Libro Blanco. Creemos que los derechos de las personas en esta materia no se respetan debidamente y sin duda queremos garantizar que se haga más de lo que se esta haciendo hoy por hoy.
Sin embargo, como ya ha señalado la propia Comisaria, esto requerirá un delicado equilibrio, especialmente por los motivos esbozados por el señor Doorn y a raíz de la audiencia organizada por el señor Sánchez Presedo, en la que dedicamos medio día a examinar estas difíciles cuestiones.
Por mi parte, estoy firmemente dispuesto a seguir avanzando en esta materia en el marco del programa de trabajo general de la Comisión con respecto a la modernización de la política de competencia, así que no debe caber la menor duda de que animamos a la Comisión a que tome medidas adicionales.
Sin embargo, como ha dejado claro la Comisaria, tanto en los Gobiernos de los Estados miembros como en la comunidad empresarial existe una verdadera preocupación por evitar las experiencias de los Estados Unidos. No basta con decir «no haremos lo que han hecho los Estados Unidos», especialmente cuando –hay que decirlo, después de examinar en detalle la cuestión– el informe del señor Sánchez Presedo trata de resolver todas estas dificultades mediante la inversión de la carga de la prueba, introduciendo los daños punitivos –al menos en relación con los cárteles– y la justicia gratuita, confundiendo las competencias de la UE con las nacionales, cambiando las normas con respecto a la divulgación de información y excluyendo de la valoración de los costes de esta litigación todo principio relativo a la subsidiaridad, la proporcionalidad o la existencia de un fundamento jurídico adecuado.
Por lo tanto, cuando nos preguntan por qué nos preocupa este informe, es porque se ha convertido en un árbol de Navidad con demasiados adornos. Estamos a favor de abrir la puerta, pero realmente no de fomentar un proceso que nos lleve por el camino de los Estados Unidos, en contra de los deseos de la Comisión y de los de todas las personas que han trabajado en torno a este informe."@es21
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@et5
"Arvoisa puhemies, komission jäsen ilmaisi puheenvuorossaan toivovansa, että parlamentti antaa vahvan tukensa tämän alan toimille. Haluan tehdä oman ryhmäni puolesta selväksi, että me suhtaudumme myönteisesti vihreän kirjan julkaisemiseen ja odotamme kiinnostuneina valkoisen kirjan julkaisemista. Kansalaisten oikeuksia ei mielestämme sovelleta asianmukaisesti tällä alalla, ja haluamme todellakin varmistaa, että asiassa ryhdytään nykyistä tehokkaampiin toimiin.
Kuten komission jäsen totesi, tämä edellyttää kuitenkin herkän tasapainon löytämistä ennen kaikkea jäsen Doornin mainitsemista syistä ja jäsen Sánchez Presedon järjestämän kuulemisen vuoksi. Keskustelimme kuulemisessa puoli päivää näistä vaikeista asioista.
Olen henkilökohtaisesti erittäin vahvasti sitä mieltä, että tällä alalla tapahtuva edistys on olennainen osa koko komission asialistaa, kun ajatellaan kilpailupolitiikan nykyaikaistamista. Haluamme siis tehdä selväksi, että tuemme komission tulevia toimia.
Kuten komission jäsen kuitenkin totesi, sekä jäsenvaltioiden hallitukset että talouselämän toimijat haluavat kaikin tavoin välttää Yhdysvalloissa nähdyn kehityksen. Ei riitä, että todetaan, ettemme aio toimia niin kuin Yhdysvalloissa on toimittu. Näin on etenkin siksi, että kun jäsen Sánchez Presedon mietinnössä on tutkittu aihetta yksityiskohtaisesti, siinä pyritään tämän jälkeen ratkaisemaan kaikki ongelmat siirtämällä todistustaakkaa, ottamalla käyttöön rankaisevat korvaukset – ainakin kartellien tapauksessa – ja riskittömät oikeudenkäynnit, sekoittamalla keskenään EU:n ja jäsenvaltioiden toimivaltuudet, muuttamalla asiakirjojen julkistamista koskevia sääntöjä sekä jättämällä oikeudenkäyntikulujen arvioinnista pois kaikki toissijaisuuteen, suhteellisuuteen ja asianmukaiseen oikeusperustaan liittyvät periaatteet.
Kun siis kysytään, miksi olemme niin huolissamme tästä mietinnöstä, syynä on se, että mietintö on kuin sillisalaatti, jossa on liikaa aineksia. Kannatamme prosessin käynnistämistä, muttemme todellakaan halua sen kulkevan kohti Yhdysvaltojen mallia, mitä toivovat myös komissio ja kaikki mietinnön laadintaan osallistuneet tahot."@fi7
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Monsieur le Président, la commissaire a déclaré dans son intervention qu’elle escomptait que le Parlement apporte un soutien substantiel à une action dans ce domaine. Je souhaite affirmer clairement au nom de mon groupe que nous saluons la publication du livre vert et que nous nous réjouissons d’ores et déjà de la publication du livre blanc. Nous pensons que les droits des citoyens ne sont pas appliqués correctement dans ce domaine et, bien entendu, nous souhaitons garantir que davantage soit fait qu’à l’heure actuelle.
Ainsi toutefois que la commissaire l’a elle-même précisé, il faudra trouver un équilibre délicat, notamment pour les raisons que M. Doorn a énoncées, et à la lumière de l’audition organisée par M. Sánchez Presedo, durant laquelle nous avons consacré une demi-journée à l’examen de ces questions difficiles.
À titre personnel, je suis profondément décidé à considérer que les progrès accomplis à cet égard font partie intégrante du programme tout entier de la Commission sur la modernisation de la politique de concurrence. Assurons donc que nul ne puisse douter que nous encourageons la Commission dans ses nouvelles mesures.
Ainsi que la commissaire l’a remarqué clairement, il existe toutefois un souci réel, tant parmi les gouvernements des États membres que parmi le monde des entreprises, d’éviter l’expérience des États-Unis. Il ne suffit pas de dire que «nous ne ferons pas ce que les États-Unis ont fait», spécialement lorsque - cela doit être souligné - le rapport de M. Sánchez Presedo, après qu’il a analysé cet aspect en long, en large et en travers, recherche en quelque sorte à résoudre toutes ces difficultés en modifiant la charge de la preuve, en instaurant des dommages et intérêts punitifs - à tout le moins par rapport aux ententes - et la gratuité des procès, en confondant les compétences européennes et nationales, en changeant les règles sur la divulgation et en excluant du calcul des coûts de ces procès tout principe relatif à la subsidiarité, à la proportionnalité ou à l’existence d’une base juridique appropriée.
En conséquence, lorsqu’on demande pourquoi nous sommes préoccupés par ce rapport, c’est parce qu’il est devenu un sapin de Noël qui arbore trop de boules. Nous sommes favorables à une ouverture, mais nous ne sommes certainement pas favorables à l’amorce d’un processus qui pourrait nous conduire sur le chemin des États-Unis, à l’opposé des souhaits de la Commission et à l’opposé des souhaits de toutes les personnes qui ont collaboré à ce rapport."@fr8
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@hu11
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Signor Presidente, nel suo intervento la signora Commissario ha detto di attendersi dal Parlamento un forte sostegno all’azione intrapresa in questo campo. A nome del mio gruppo desidero affermare esplicitamente che giudichiamo con favore la pubblicazione del Libro verde e attendiamo con interesse il Libro bianco. A nostro avviso in questo campo i diritti dei cittadini non vengono messi adeguatamente in pratica, e noi intendiamo adoperarci per ottenere risultati migliori di quelli attuali.
Tuttavia, come ha osservato la stessa signora Commissario, in tale operazione sarà necessario rispettare un delicato equilibrio, sia per i motivi illustrati dall’onorevole Doorn, sia a causa dell’audizione organizzata dall’onorevole Sánchez Presedo, nel corso della quale abbiamo dedicato mezza giornata all’analisi di questi spinosi problemi.
Da parte mia, intendo battermi con grande impegno per inserire a pieno titolo i progressi in questo campo nell’agenda complessiva della Commissione per l’ammodernamento della politica della concorrenza; in tal modo, non vi saranno più dubbi sulla nostra volontà di incoraggiare le ulteriori iniziative della Commissione.
Tuttavia, come la signora Commissario ha esplicitamente notato, sia tra i governi degli Stati membri che nel mondo economico vi è la concreta preoccupazione di non ripetere le esperienze degli Stati Uniti. Non basta affermare “non intendiamo seguire l’esempio degli Stati Uniti”; tanto più che – bisogna ammetterlo – dopo aver minuziosamente considerato il problema, la relazione dell’onorevole Sánchez Presedo cerca di risolvere tutte queste difficoltà, a quanto sembra, rovesciando l’onere della prova, introducendo risarcimenti punitivi – almeno nel caso dei cartelli – e cause giudiziarie prive di costi, confondendo le competenze dell’Unione europea con quelle nazionali, modificando le norme in materia di pubblicazione dei documenti, e infine escludendo dalla valutazione dei costi di queste cause giudiziarie qualsiasi considerazione relativa alla sussidiarietà, alla proporzionalità o alla presenza di un’adeguata base giuridica.
Quindi, a chi ci chiede quali timori desti in noi questa relazione, rispondiamo che essa è diventata come un albero di Natale adorno di troppi gingilli. Siamo favorevoli ad aprire le porte, ma non intendiamo certamente incoraggiare un processo che può condurci sulla strada degli Stati Uniti, contro la volontà della Commissione e di tutti coloro che hanno lavorato a questa relazione."@it12
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@lt14
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@lv13
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@mt15
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Mijnheer de Voorzitter, de commissaris heeft in haar betoog aangegeven dat zij hoopte dat het Parlement op dit terrein krachtig steun zou verlenen. Ik wil graag, namens mijn fractie, duidelijk maken dat wij blij zijn met de publicatie van het groenboek en dat we uitzien naar de publicatie van het witboek. Wij zijn van mening dat de bevolking op dit terrein geen recht wordt gedaan en wij willen er zeker voor zorgen dat er meer zal worden gedaan dan tot nu toe.
De commissaris heeft echter zelf al aangegeven dat dat een delicaat evenwicht vereist, niet in de minste plaats om de redenen die de heer Doorn heeft uiteengezet, en om de resultaten van de hoorzitting die de heer Presedo heeft georganiseerd, waarbij we een halve dag hebben gewijd aan overwegingen met betrekking tot deze moeilijke zaken.
Ik zelf wil vooruitgang op dit terrein graag zien als een integraal onderdeel van de hele aanpak van de Commissie voor modernisering van concurrentiebeleid. Ik hoop dan ook dat niemand eraan zal twijfelen dat we verdere actie van de Commissie zullen steunen.
Zoals de commissaris echter heeft duidelijk gemaakt, leeft zowel in de lidstaten als in het bedrijfsleven de wens de ervaringen van de Verenigde Staten te voorkomen. Dit kan niet worden afgedaan met woorden als “wij zullen niet doen wat de Verenigde Staten hebben gedaan”, vooral vanwege de manier waarop in het verslag van de heer Presedo na een gedetailleerde beschouwing van de zaak, het moet gezegd, gepoogd wordt de problemen op te lossen. In het verslag wordt beoogd al deze problemen op te lossen door de bewijslast om te draaien, door sanctionele schadeloosstelling in te voeren, in ieder geval met betrekking tot kartels, en gratis rechtsvordering, waarbij bevoegdheden van de EU en lidstaten worden verward, waarbij regels voor openbaarmaking worden aangepast, en waarbij uit de beoordeling van de kosten van deze rechtsvordering elke verwijzing naar de principes van subsidiariteit, proportionaliteit of het bestaan van een rechtsgrond wordt weggesneden.
Als mensen vragen wat er wat ons betreft schort aan dit verslag, dan is het dat het verslag een kerstboom is geworden waarin veel te veel klokjes hangen. Wij zijn ervoor om de deur open te zetten, wij zijn zeker niet voor de introductie van iets wat ons op de weg van de Verenigde Staten zal voeren, tegen de wens van de Commissie en tegen de wens van allen die aan dit verslag hebben gewerkt."@nl3
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@pl16
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Senhor Presidente, na sua alocução, a Senhora Comissária deu a entender que estava interessada em que o Parlamento desse um forte sinal de apoio para a realização de acções neste domínio. Quero deixar claro, em nome do meu grupo, que nos congratulamos com a publicação do Livro Verde e que aguardamos com expectativa a publicação do Livro Branco. Pensamos que os direitos dos cidadãos nesta matéria não estão a ser devidamente aplicados e, sem a menor dúvida, queremos assegurar que se fará mais do que actualmente é feito.
No entanto, tal como foi referido pela própria Comissária, esta abordagem vai requerer um delicado equilíbrio, também pelas razões enunciadas pelo senhor deputado Doorn e devido à audição organizada pelo senhor deputado Sánchez Presedo, na qual consagrámos meio dia à análise destes complexos temas.
No que me diz respeito, estou extremamente empenhado no sentido de considerar os progressos obtidos neste domínio como fazendo parte integral da totalidade da agenda da Comissão em termos de modernização da política da concorrência. Portanto, ninguém tenha dúvidas de que vamos dar o nosso apoio ao prosseguimento desta linha de acção pela Comissão.
Contudo, a Comissão deixou claro, quer entre os Governos dos Estados-Membros quer entre a comunidade empresarial, que existe uma preocupação real em evitar experiências como as dos Estados Unidos nesta matéria. Mas não basta dizer “não vamos fazer o que os Estados Unidos fizeram”, especialmente quando, há que dizê-lo, depois de uma quantidade considerável de análise aprofundada sobre o tema, o senhor deputado Sánchez Presedo acaba por procurar solucionar todas estas dificuldades através da inversão do ónus da prova, introduzindo indemnizações punitivas – pelo menos em relação aos cartéis – e contencioso sem custos, confundindo as competências comunitárias com as nacionais, alterando as regras de divulgação de documentos e suprimindo da avaliação de custos deste contencioso quaisquer princípios relacionados com subsidiariedade, proporcionalidade ou eventual existência da devida base jurídica.
Nesta perspectiva, quando alguém pergunta por que razão estamos preocupados com este relatório, nós respondemos que é devido ao facto de este se ter transformado numa árvore de Natal com demasiados enfeites pendurados. Somos favoráveis a que se abra a porta, não pretendemos encorajar processos que nos possam levar pela via dos Estados Unidos neste domínio, contra a vontade da Comissão e contra a vontade de todos aqueles que trabalharam neste relatório."@pt17
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@ro18
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@sk19
"Mr President, the Commissioner indicated during her address that she was looking for Parliament to give a strong measure of support to action in this area. I want to make it clear, on behalf of my group, that we welcome the publication of the Green Paper and we are looking forward to the publication of the White Paper. We think that people’s rights in this area are not properly applied and, certainly, we want to ensure that more is done than is currently being done.
However, as the Commissioner herself has indicated, that is going to require a delicate balance, not least for the reasons that Mr Doorn has outlined, and because of the hearing organised by Mr Sánchez Presedo, in which we devoted half a day to considering these difficult issues.
For my own part, I am very committed to regarding progress in this area as an integral part of the whole of the Commission’s agenda in terms of modernisation of competition policy, so let nobody be in any doubt about our encouragement of further action by the Commission.
However, as the Commissioner has made clear, both within Member State governments and amongst the business community, there is real concern to avoid the experiences of the United States. It is not good enough just to say ‘we are not going to do what the United States did’, especially when, it must be said, after giving a considerable amount of detailed consideration to the issue, Mr Sánchez Presedo’s report goes into seeking to resolve, as it were, all these difficulties by changing the burden of proof, introducing punitive damages – at least in relation to cartels – and cost-free litigation, confusing EU and national competences, changing the rules in relation to disclosure, and cutting out of the assessment of the costs of this litigation any principles in relation to subsidiarity, proportionality or whether there is a proper legal base.
Therefore, when people ask why we are concerned about this report, it is because it has become a Christmas tree with too many bells hanging on it. We are in favour of opening the door, we are certainly not in favour of encouraging a process which may lead us down the US route, against the wishes of the Commission and against the wishes of all of those who have worked on this report."@sl20
"Herr talman! Kommissionsledamoten antydde i sitt anförande att hon hoppades på att parlamentet skulle ge ett mycket starkt stöd för åtgärder inom detta område. Jag vill som företrädare för min grupp klargöra att vi välkomnar offentliggörandet av grönboken och ser fram mot publiceringen av vitboken. Vi anser att medborgarnas rättigheter på detta område inte tillämpas korrekt och vi vill verkligen se till att mer görs än för närvarande.
Som kommissionsledamoten själv antydde kommer detta emellertid att kräva en känslig avvägning, inte minst på grund av de skäl som Bert Doorn angav och det som vi kom fram till under den utfrågning som Antolín Sánchez Presedo anordnade, då vi ägnade en halvdag åt att diskutera dessa komplicerade frågor.
För egen del är jag starkt övertygad om att framstegen på detta område utgör en väsentlig del av kommissionens dagordning för moderniseringen av konkurrenspolitiken, så ingen behöver tvivla på att vi stöder ytterligare åtgärder från kommissionen.
Som kommissionsledamoten har klargjort anser man emellertid, både bland medlemsstaternas regeringar och inom affärsvärlden, att det är ytterst viktigt att undvika erfarenheterna från Förenta staterna. Det är inte tillräckligt att bara säga att vi inte ska göra som amerikanerna. Vi har nämligen, och detta måste sägas, noggrant övervägt Antolín Sánchez Presedos betänkande, och har kommit fram till att han så att säga försöker lösa alla dessa svårigheter genom att förändra bevisbördan, införa straffskadestånd – åtminstone med avseende på karteller – och kostnadsfria processer, genom att blanda ihop befogenheterna på EU-nivå och nationell nivå, ändra reglerna för tillgång till handlingar, och helt bortse från både subsidiaritets- och proportionalitetsprinciperna och frågan om den korrekta rättsliga grunden.
När vi får frågan om varför vi är oroade över detta betänkande svarar vi därför att det har blivit som en julgran med alltför många prydnader. Vi är för att öppna dörren, men vi är sannerligen inte för att stödja en process som kan leda oss in på samma spår som Förenta staterna, mot kommissionens vilja och mot alla dem som har arbetat med detta betänkande."@sv22
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