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lpv:speaker	lp:Nigel Farage⁶
lpv:spoken text	"Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@en⁴
lpv:spokenAs	member; Conference of Presidents (2006-12-13--2009-07-13)²³ unknown; UK Independence Party (2004-07-20--2009-07-13)²³ chair; IND/DEM (2004-12-06--2008-10-21)²³
lpv:translated text	"Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@cs¹ "Hr. formand! I politik er det ofte ikke det, der bliver sagt offentligt, men det, der foregår bag scenen, der virkelig betyder noget, og sådan er det også med dette kommende EU-topmøde. Den tyske minister for europaspørgsmål, hr. Gloser, taler måske nok om bæredygtighed og energipolitik, men jeg forstår ikke, hvordan han kan holde masken, når han taler om den allerede fejlslagne Lissabon-dagsorden. Men han taler selvfølgelig ikke om det faktum, at den europæiske forfatning vil blive diskuteret på dette topmøde. Forbundskansler Merkel har gjort det klart, at hun er indstillet på at fortsætte, og i denne uge vil drøftelserne om forfatningen fortsætte i al hemmelighed i Berlin. Man forsøger endnu en gang at gennemføre et stort bedrag. De forsøger at sammenflikke en minitraktat, fjerne "F"-ordet og dermed berøve Europas befolkninger muligheden for at stemme om deres egen fremtid. Det er, som om De alle har et højere kald og ved, hvad der er bedst for Europas ordinære plebejere. De tror måske, at det er noget, jeg finder på alt sammen, men så sent som i sidste uge sagde hr. kommissionsformand Barroso: "Som præsident gik jeg ind for en folkeafstemning (om forfatningen)". Siden da er han kommet til Bruxelles, og de har tydeligvis hældt sprut i hans drikkevarer, for nu siger han: "Hvis der havde været en folkeafstemning om oprettelsen af Det Europæiske Fællesskab eller euroens indførelse, tror De så, at de ville findes i dag?". Jeg tror, at vi kender svaret, og svaret er "nej". Ved at turde sige det, blotlægger hr. Barroso det europæiske projekt. Han udviser ubetinget foragt for befolkningerne i Frankrig og Holland, der stemte "nej", men hvad værre er, udviser han gennemført foragt for hele demokratiprocessen. Hvis De fortsætter uforsonligt med denne forfatning, og hvis De fortsat nægter de europæiske folk indflydelse på deres fremtid, så oplagrer de meget alvorlige problemer for vores børn."@da² ". Herr Präsident! Oft kommt es in der Politik nicht darauf an, was öffentlich verkündet wird, sondern was im Geheimen hinter den Kulissen passiert, und so ist es auch in diesem Falle beim bevorstehenden Europäischen Gipfel. Der deutsche Staatsminister für Europa, Herr Gloser, mag ja über Nachhaltigkeit und Energiepolitik sprechen – obwohl ich sagen muss, dass ich beim besten Willen nicht nachvollziehen kann, wie er, ohne eine Miene zu verziehen, über die bereits gescheiterte Lissabon-Agenda sprechen kann. Worüber er allerdings nicht spricht, das ist natürlich die Tatsache, dass es auf diesem Gipfel auch um die europäische Verfassung gehen wird. Kanzlerin Merkel hat klipp und klar gesagt, dass sie diese Problematik entschlossen vorantreiben wird. Übrigens finden just in dieser Woche in Berlin Geheimgespräche über die Verfassung statt. Es ist ein groß angelegtes Täuschungsmanöver im Gange. Sie versuchen, einen Minivertrag zusammenzuschustern, um nur nicht das Wort „Verfassung“ zu benutzen, und damit sollen die Bürger Europas daran gehindert werden, über ihre eigene Zukunft abzustimmen. Man möchte meinen, Sie alle seien von einer höheren Macht berufen und wüssten, was für das gemeine Volk Europas gut ist. Vielleicht denken Sie, dass ich mir das alles nur ausdenke, aber erst letzte Woche sagte Präsident Barroso, dass er als Premierminister für eine Volksabstimmung über die Verfassung gewesen sei. Inzwischen ist er in Brüssel, wo man ihm eindeutig etwas in seinen Drink getan hat, denn jetzt sagt er: „Meinen Sie, dass es die Europäische Gemeinschaft oder den Euro gäbe, wenn dazu Volksabstimmungen stattgefunden hätten?“ Ich denke, wir kennen die Antwort, und die Antwort lautet „Nein“. Indem er es wagt, so etwas zu sagen, stellt Herr Barroso das europäische Projekt bloß. Er demonstriert vollkommene Verachtung für die Menschen in Frankreich und den Niederlanden, die die Verfassung abgelehnt haben, und, was noch schlimmer ist, er demonstriert vollkommene Verachtung für den demokratischen Prozess selbst. Wenn Sie die Verfassung erbarmungslos vorantreiben, wenn Sie die Völker Europas weiterhin ihrer Mitbestimmung berauben, dann sorgen Sie dafür, dass Ihre Kinder einmal vor riesigen Problemen stehen werden."@de⁹ "Κύριε Πρόεδρε, πολύ συχνά στην πολιτική αυτό που έχει πραγματική σημασία δεν είναι το τι λέγεται δημοσίως αλλά το τι συμβαίνει κρυφά στα παρασκήνια· το ίδιο ισχύει και για την επικείμενη ευρωπαϊκή σύνοδο κορυφής. Ο γερμανός υπουργός Εξωτερικών, κ. Gloser, μπορεί να μιλά περί βιωσιμότητας και ενεργειακής πολιτικής – αν και οφείλω να ομολογήσω ότι μου είναι πραγματικά αδύνατον να καταλάβω πώς μπορεί να διατηρεί τη σοβαρότητά του ενόσω μιλά για την ήδη αποτυχημένη στρατηγική της Λισαβόνας. Ωστόσο, το θέμα για το οποίο δεν μιλά, βεβαίως, είναι το γεγονός ότι σε αυτήν τη σύνοδο κορυφής θα συζητηθεί το Ευρωπαϊκό Σύνταγμα. Η καγκελάριος Merkel κατέστησε σαφές ότι είναι αποφασισμένη να ασκήσει πιέσεις προς αυτήν την κατεύθυνση· μάλιστα, την εβδομάδα που διανύουμε στο Βερολίνο διεξάγονται μυστικές συνομιλίες σχετικά με το Σύνταγμα. Για μία ακόμη φορά, μια μεγάλη απάτη βρίσκεται στα σκαριά. Προσπαθείτε να δημιουργήσετε όπως-όπως μια μίνι συνθήκη, στην οποία δεν θα περιλαμβάνεται η λέξη «Σύνταγμα» και, ως εκ τούτου, δεν θα προσφέρεται στους λαούς της Ευρώπης η ευκαιρία να αποφασίσουν διά της ψήφου τους για το μέλλον τους. Φαίνεται πως έχετε, ούτως ειπείν, ανώτερη αντίληψη, οπότε γνωρίζετε τι είναι καλύτερο για την πλέμπα στην Ευρώπη. Ίσως να νομίζετε ότι όλα αυτά είναι δική μου επινόηση, όμως μόλις την περασμένη εβδομάδα ο Πρόεδρος Barroso είχε δηλώσει: «Ως πρωθυπουργός τάχθηκα υπέρ της διενέργειας δημοψηφίσματος [για το Σύνταγμα]». Έκτοτε, όμως, ήρθε στις Βρυξέλλες και, από ό,τι φαίνεται, του άλλαξαν τα μυαλά, μιας και τώρα δηλώνει: «Αν είχε πραγματοποιηθεί δημοψήφισμα για την ίδρυση της Ευρωπαϊκής Κοινότητας ή την εισαγωγή του ευρώ, νομίζετε ότι αυτά θα υπήρχαν τώρα;». Νομίζω ότι γνωρίζουμε την απάντηση, και η απάντηση είναι «όχι». Έχοντας το θράσος να προβεί σε μια τέτοια δήλωση, αυτό που επιτυγχάνει ο κ. Barroso είναι ότι αποκαλύπτει το πραγματικό περιεχόμενο του ευρωπαϊκού εγχειρήματος. Επιδεικνύει πλήρη περιφρόνηση για τους λαούς της Γαλλίας και των Κάτω Χωρών οι οποίοι ψήφισαν «όχι», ενώ, κάτι που είναι ακόμη πιο σοβαρό, επιδεικνύει πλήρη περιφρόνηση για την ίδια τη δημοκρατική διαδικασία. Αν συνεχίσετε να προωθείτε ακάθεκτα αυτό το Σύνταγμα, αν συνεχίσετε να αρνείστε στους λαούς της Ευρώπης το δικαίωμα να αποφασίσουν οι ίδιοι για το μέλλον τους, προετοιμάζετε πολύ σοβαρά προβλήματα, τα οποία θα κληθούν να τα αντιμετωπίσουν τα παιδιά μας."@el¹⁰ ". Señor Presidente, muy a menudo, en política lo que cuenta no es lo que se dice en público, sino lo que sucede en secreto entre bastidores, y esto es lo que sucede con el próximo Consejo Europeo. Por mucho que el Ministro alemán de Asuntos Europeos, el señor Gloser, hable de sostenibilidad y política energética, he de decir que su capacidad para mantener el gesto cuando habla de la ya fracasada Agenda de Lisboa realmente me supera. Sin embargo, de lo que no habla, por supuesto, es de que en este Consejo Europeo se debatirá la Constitución Europea. La Canciller Merkel ya ha dejado claro que está decidida a seguir adelante y, de hecho, esta misma semana continúan en secreto las deliberaciones sobre la Constitución en Berlín. Una vez más se trama un gran engaño. Ustedes están intentando confeccionar un minitratado, deshacerse de la palabra que comienza con «C» y, de este modo, niegan a los pueblos de Europa la oportunidad de votar sobre su propio futuro. Como si tuvieran una vocación superior y supieran lo que es bueno para la plebe europea. No crean que me lo estoy inventando, pues el Presidente Barroso señaló la semana pasada que cuando era Primer Ministro, estaba a favor de un referendo sobre la Constitución. Desde que llegó a Bruselas, es evidente que le han echado algo en la bebida, pues ahora dice: «Si se hubiese celebrado un referendo sobre la fundación de la Comunidad Europea o la introducción del euro, ¿creen ustedes que habrían salido adelante?» Creo que sabemos la respuesta: «no». Yo me atrevería incluso a decir que lo que hace el señor Barroso es poner al descubierto el proyecto europeo. Muestra un desdén absoluto por los ciudadanos de Francia y los Países Bajos que votaron «no», pero lo que resulta más grave es que muestra un absoluto desprecio por el proceso mismo de la democracia. Si insistimos sin cesar en imponer esta Constitución, si seguimos denegando a los pueblos de Europa la posibilidad de expresar su opinión sobre su propio futuro, acumularemos problemas muy graves para nuestros hijos."@es²¹ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@et⁵ "Arvoisa puhemies, politiikassa ei ole useinkaan tärkeää se, mitä sanotaan julkisesti, vaan se, mitä tapahtuu salaa kulissien takana, ja tämä pätee myös tähän tulevaan EU:n huippukokoukseen. Saksan Eurooppa-ministeri, Günter Gloser puhukoon kestävyydestä ja energiapolitiikasta, mutta minun on sanottava, etten käsitä, kuinka hän pystyy ilmeenkään värähtämättä puhumaan Lissabonin strategiasta, vaikka se on jo epäonnistunut. Se, minkä hän tietenkin jättää sanomatta, on, että tässä huippukokouksessa keskustellaan Euroopan perustuslakisopimuksesta. Liittokansleri Merkel on tehnyt selväksi, että hän edistää asiaa määrätietoisesti, ja itse asiassa juuri tällä viikolla Berliinissä käydään salaisia keskusteluja perustuslakisopimuksesta. Kyseessä on jälleen kerran suuri huijausyritys. Pyrkimyksenä on kursia kokoon minisopimus, häivyttää "P"-sana ja siten evätä Euroopan kansoilta mahdollisuus äänestää heidän omasta tulevaisuudestaan. Kyse on siitä, että teillä kaikilla on ikään kuin korkeampi kutsumus ja te tiedätte, mikä on parhaaksi Euroopan tavalliselle rahvaalle. Saatatte ajatella, että olen keksinyt kaiken omasta päästäni, mutta vasta viime viikolla komission puheenjohtaja Barroso totesi seuraavaa: "pääministerinä kannatin kansanäänestystä [perustuslakisopimuksesta]". Sen jälkeen hän on tullut Brysseliin ja hänen juomiaan on selvästikin terästetty, koska nyt hän sanoo seuraavaa: "Jos Euroopan yhteisön perustamisesta tai euron täytäntöönpanosta olisi pidetty kansanäänestys, luuletteko, että ne olisivat toteutuneet?" Mielestäni me tiedämme vastauksen, se on "ei". Uskaltaessaan edes sanoa tällaista puheenjohtaja Barroso antaa ilmi Eurooppa-hankkeen. Hän osoittaa ylenkatsovansa täysin Ranskan ja Alankomaiden kansoja, jotka äänestivät sopimusta vastaan, mutta vielä vakavampaa on, että hän osoittaa täydellistä ylenkatsetta demokraattista prosessia itseään kohtaan. Jos viette herkeämättä eteenpäin tätä perustuslakisopimusta, jos epäätte jatkuvasti Euroopan kansoilta sananvallan heidän tulevaisuuttaan koskevassa asiassa, luotte hyvin vakavia ongelmia lapsillemme."@fi⁷ "Monsieur le Président, bien souvent en politique, ce qui compte n’est pas ce qui se dit en public, mais bien ce qu’il se passe en secret dans les coulisses. On peut en dire autant du prochain sommet européen. Le ministre allemand des affaires européennes, M. Gloser, peut parler de durabilité et de politique énergétique, mais je dois dire que la manière dont il garde son sérieux lorsqu’il parle de l’échec de l’agenda de Lisbonne me dépasse. Ce qu’il ne dit pas, bien entendu, c’est que ce sommet abordera la Constitution européenne. La chancelière Merkel a fait clairement savoir qu’elle était déterminée à poursuivre dans ce domaine et cette semaine se déroulent à Berlin des négociations secrètes portant sur la Constitution. Une fois encore, nous assistons à une tentative de supercherie. Vous essayez de bricoler un mini traité, en vous débarrassant du mot qui commence par la lettre «C», déniant par la même aux Européens le droit de voter sur leur propre avenir. C’est comme si vous vous sentiez investis, tous autant que vous êtes, d’une mission supérieure et que vous saviez ce qui est bon pour le petit peuple ordinaire d’Europe. Vous pensez peut-être que je suis en train de tout inventer, mais pas plus tard que la semaine dernière, le président Barroso a dit: «en ma qualité de premier ministre, j’étais en faveur d’un référendum [sur la Constitution]». Depuis lors, il s’est rendu à Bruxelles et ils ont certainement dû mettre quelque chose dans son verre, parce que maintenant il dit: «S’il y avait eu un référendum sur la fondation de la Communauté européenne ou sur la mise en œuvre de l’euro, pensez-vous que ceux-ci existeraient?» Je pense que nous connaissons la réponse et c’est «non». En tenant ce genre de propos, ce que M. Barroso fait c’est exposer le projet européen. Il fait preuve d’un mépris absolu vis-à-vis des Français et des Néerlandais qui ont dit «non», mais plus grave encore, il fait preuve d’un mépris absolu vis-à-vis du processus démocratique lui-même. Si vous revenez continuellement à la charge avec cette Constitution, si vous continuez à refuser aux Européens le droit d’avoir leur mot à dire pour leur avenir, vous mettrez en réserve de sérieux problèmes pour nos enfants."@fr⁸ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@hu¹¹ ". Signor Presidente, molto spesso in politica ciò che conta realmente non è quel che si afferma in pubblico ma ciò che accade dietro le quinte, e lo stesso vale per il prossimo Vertice europeo. Il ministro tedesco degli Affari europei Gloser può anche parlare di sostenibilità e di politica energetica, ma devo dire che non so proprio come faccia a rimanere serio quando parla dell’ormai fallita agenda di Lisbona. Tuttavia, ciò che non dice, ovviamente, è che a questo Vertice si discuterà la Costituzione europea. Il Cancelliere Merkel ha dichiarato che intende portare avanti il programma con determinazione e, di fatto, proprio questa settimana a Berlino sono in corso discussioni segrete sulla Costituzione. Ancora una volta, si tenta di ordire un grande inganno. State cercando di rabberciare un minitrattato, di sbarazzarvi della parola che inizia con la “C” e negare così ai popoli d’Europa la possibilità di votare sul loro futuro. E’ come se tutti voi rispondeste a una vocazione superiore e sapeste che cosa è bene per le masse in Europa. Potete pensare che mi stia inventando tutto, ma solo la scorsa settimana il Presidente Barroso ha affermato: “Da Primo Ministro, ero favorevole a un [sulla Costituzione]”. Poi è arrivato a Bruxelles, e chiaramente gli hanno drogato le bevande, perché ora dice: “Se si fosse svolto un sulla creazione della Comunità europea o sull’introduzione dell’euro, pensate che sarebbero esistiti?” Penso che la risposta sia nota e la risposta è “no”. Osando dire persino questo, il Presidente Barroso svela il progetto europeo, mostra un disprezzo assoluto nei confronti dei cittadini della Francia e dei Paesi Bassi, che hanno votato “no”, ma – e questo è più serio – mostra un disprezzo assoluto nei riguardi dello stesso processo democratico. Se continuate a insistere su questa Costituzione, se continuate a negare ai popoli d’Europa la possibilità di decidere il loro futuro, create le condizioni perché i nostri figli si trovino di fronte a problemi gravissimi."@it¹² "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@lt¹⁴ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@lv¹³ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@mt¹⁵ ". Mijnheer de Voorzitter, maar al te vaak gaat het in de politiek niet om wat er in het openbaar wordt gezegd maar om wat er achter de schermen plaatsvindt en met de komende Europese top is het niet anders. De Duitse minister voor Europese zaken, de heer Gloser, heeft de mond vol van duurzaamheid en energiebeleid, maar hoe hij zijn gezicht in de plooi weet te houden als hij het heeft over de reeds mislukte agenda van Lissabon, is mij een raadsel. Waar hij natuurlijk zijn mond over houdt, is het feit dat tijdens deze top de Europese Grondwet aan de orde komt. Kanselier Merkel heeft duidelijk gesteld dat zij vast van plan is om het proces voort te zetten en deze week vinden er in Berlijn geheime besprekingen plaats over de Grondwet. Er wordt weer eens een smerig spelletje gespeeld. U probeert een miniverdrag in elkaar te flansen, omzeilt het woord ‘verdrag’ en ontneemt de bevolking van Europa de kans om over haar eigen toekomst te stemmen. Het lijkt alsof u allemaal een hogere roeping hebt en weet wat goed is voor het gewone plebs van Europa. U denkt misschien dat ik dit allemaal uit mijn duim zuig, maar vorige week zei voorzitter Barroso nog dat hij als minister-president vóór een referendum over de Grondwet was. Daarna is hij in Brussel geweest en hebben ze kennelijk iets door zijn drankje gedaan, want nu stelt hij ons de vraag of de Europese Gemeenschap en de euro er wel zouden zijn gekomen als er een referendum over de oprichting van de Europese Gemeenschap of de invoering van de euro was gehouden. Ik denk dat we het antwoord op die vraag wel weten: ‘nee’. Ik waag het te beweren dat de heer Barroso hiermee de zwakke plek van het Europese project blootlegt. Hij geeft blijk van diepe minachting voor de inwoners van Frankrijk en Nederland die ‘nee’ hebben gestemd, maar wat nog erger is, is dat hij blijk geeft van diepe minachting voor het democratische proces zelf. Door deze Grondwet er meedogenloos door te drukken en de bevolking van Europa een stem in haar toekomst te blijven ontzeggen zadelen we onze kinderen op met een ernstig probleem."@nl³ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@pl¹⁶ "Senhor Presidente, em política, não é frequentemente aquilo que se diz em público mas sim aquilo que se passa em segredo, nos bastidores, que realmente importa, e é esse o caso da Cimeira europeia a realizar proximamente. O Ministro dos Assuntos Europeus alemão, Günter Gloser, bem pode falar de sustentabilidade e de política energética, embora eu não faça ideia de como é que ele consegue manter um ar sério ao falar da Agenda de Lisboa, que já é um fracasso nesta altura. No entanto, aquilo que ele não diz, evidentemente, é que a Cimeira irá discutir a Constituição Europeia. A Chanceler Angela Merkel disse muito claramente que está determinada em ir para a frente e, efectivamente, esta semana estão a decorrer em Berlim, em segredo, discussões sobre a Constituição. Mais uma vez, está-se a tentar cometer um grande logro. Estão a tentar forjar um mini-Tratado, fugindo àquela palavra que começa por "C", negando dessa forma às populações da Europa a oportunidade de votarem sobre o seu próprio futuro. É como se julgassem ter uma missão superior e soubessem o que é melhor para a gente vulgar da Europa. Poderão pensar que estou a inventar tudo isto, mas ainda na semana passada o Presidente Durão Barroso disse: "Como Primeiro-Ministro, eu fui a favor de um referendo [sobre a Constituição]". Desde então, veio para a Europa e devem-lhe ter misturado qualquer coisa nas bebidas, porque aquilo que ele diz agora é: "Se tivesse havido um referendo sobre a fundação da Comunidade Europeia ou sobre a introdução do euro, acham que essas duas coisas alguma vez teriam acontecido?". Penso que sabemos a resposta, e a resposta é "não". Ao atrever-se sequer a dizer aquelas palavras, o que o Presidente Durão Barroso faz é denunciar o projecto europeu. Revela um desprezo total pelos povos francês e neerlandês, que votaram "não", mas, o que é mais grave, é que revela um total desprezo pelo próprio processo democrático. Se insistirem inexoravelmente nesta Constituição, estarão a negar às populações da Europa a possibilidade de expressarem as suas opiniões sobre o seu futuro, estarão a criar problemas muito graves para os nossos filhos."@pt¹⁷ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@ro¹⁸ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@sk¹⁹ "Mr President, so often in politics it is not what is said in public but what is going on in secret behind the scenes that really matters, and so it is here with this forthcoming European Summit. The German Minister for European Affairs, Mr Gloser, may talk about sustainability and energy policy – although I have to say that how he keeps a straight face when he talks about the already failed Lisbon Agenda is quite beyond me. However, what he does not talk about, of course, is the fact that this summit will discuss the European Constitution. Chancellor Merkel has made it clear that she is determined to press on and, in fact, this very week in Berlin discussions about the Constitution are going on in secret. Once again, a great deception is being attempted. You are trying to cobble together a mini-treaty, getting rid of the 'C' word and thereby denying the peoples of Europe the opportunity to vote on their own future. It is as if you all have some higher calling and know what is good for the ordinary plebs of Europe. You might think I am making it all up, but just last week President Barroso said: ‘As a prime minister I was in favour of a referendum [on the Constitution]’. Since then he has come to Brussels and they have clearly spiked his drinks, because now he is saying: ‘If there had been a referendum on the founding of the European Community or the implementation of the euro, do you think these would have existed?’ I think we know the answer and the answer is ‘no’. In daring even to say that, what Mr Barroso does is to expose the European project. He shows absolute contempt for the people of France and Holland who voted ‘no’ but, more seriously, he shows absolute contempt for the very process of democracy itself. If you push on relentlessly with this Constitution, if you go on denying the peoples of Europe a say in their future, you are storing up very serious problems for our children."@sl²⁰ ". Herr talman! Som så ofta inom politiken är det inte det som sägs offentligt utan det som sker i hemlighet bakom kulisserna som verkligen har betydelse, och detta gäller också för det förestående europeiska toppmötet. Tysklands Europaminister, Günter Gloser, kan tala om hållbarhet och energipolitik – även om jag måste säga att jag inte förstår hur han lyckas hålla masken när han talar om den redan misslyckade Lissabonagendan. Det som han dock inte talar om är naturligtvis att det man kommer att diskutera vid detta toppmöte är den europeiska konstitutionen. Förbundskansler Angela Merkel har klargjort att hon är fast besluten att gå vidare, och just denna vecka pågår diskussioner om konstitutionen i hemlighet i Berlin. Ännu en gång försöker man sig på ett stort bedrägeri. Ni försöker att tråckla ihop ett minifördrag, bli av med ”k”-ordet och därmed förvägra EU:s folk möjligheten att rösta om sin egen framtid. Det är som om ni alla har något högre kall och vet vad som är bra för EU:s stora massor. Ni kanske tror att jag hittar på allt detta, men så sent som förra veckan sa ordförande José Manuel Barroso att han som premiärminister var för en folkomröstning om konstitutionen. Sedan dess har han kommit till Bryssel, och de har tydligen spetsat hans drinkar, för nu säger han att om det hade ägt rum en folkomröstning om grundandet av Europeiska gemenskapen eller införandet av euron, tror vi då att dessa skulle ha existerat? Jag tror att vi vet svaret, och svaret är ”nej”. Genom att till och med våga säga detta avslöjar José Manuel Barroso i själva verket EU-projektet. Han visar ett absolut förakt för folken i Frankrike och Nederländerna som röstade ”nej”, men än värre är att han visar absolut förakt för själva demokratiprocessen. Om ni obevekligen går vidare med denna konstitution, om ni fortsätter att förvägra EU:s folk att få säga sin åsikt om sin framtid, lägger ni mycket allvarliga problem på lager för våra barn."@sv²²
lpv:unclassifiedMetadata	"Nigel Farage,"^{18,5,20,15,1,19,14,16,11,13,4} "on behalf of the IND/DEM Group"^{18,5,20,15,1,19,14,16,11,13,4} "referendum"¹²