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lpv:spoken text	". Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@en⁴
lpv:translated text	"Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@cs¹ "Hr. formand, jeg har haft en del vanskeligheder i forbindelse med denne problemstilling, selv om jeg har drøftet situationen med personer i forsikringsindustrien. Jeg har på mit besøg for nylig i USA rejst spørgsmålet over for nogle af forsikringsmyndighederne. Som det ærede medlem vil vide, er et af problemerne - der er desværre flere - i forbindelse med spørgsmålet, at ansvaret for dette område ligger hos de enkelte stater i USA. I EU-medlemsstaterne kan man i det mindste henvende sig til én tilsynsmyndighed i den pågældende medlemsstat, og man kan henvende sig til EU, hvad angår dette direktiv. Men i USA har hver stat ansvar for dette område, og hver stat udpeger sine egne forsikringsmyndigheder. Det var opfattelsen, at der var sket store fremskridt i de seneste år, og at forsikringsindustrien på denne side af Atlanterhavet havde arbejdet meget hårdt og mente, at de havde indgået en aftale om udviklingen af forholdene. Men aftalen blev brudt, fordi forsikringsmyndighederne udskiftes så hurtigt i USA. Så det er ikke svært at forstå, at det er vanskeligt. Under mit seneste besøg i USA i april rejste jeg spørgsmålet, og nu er drøftelserne i gang igen. Men jeg vil gerne understrege, at der er vanskeligheder, især i forbindelse med de spørgsmål, som jeg lige har nævnt."@da² ". Herr Präsident! Da habe ich Schwierigkeiten, obwohl ich mit Vertretern der Versicherungswirtschaft gesprochen habe. Auf meiner jüngsten Reise in die Vereinigten Staaten habe ich diese Frage bei mehreren Versicherungsaufsichtsbehörden zur Sprache gebracht. Wie der Herr Abgeordnete weiß, besteht eine – aber nicht die einzige – Schwierigkeit bei dieser Frage darin, dass in den Vereinigten Staaten jeder Bundesstaat für diesen Bereich selbst zuständig ist. In den Mitgliedstaaten der Europäischen Union hat man es wenigstens im jeweiligen Mitgliedstaat nur mit einer Aufsichtsbehörde zu tun, auch kann man sich wegen dieser Richtlinie an die Europäische Union wenden; aber in den Vereinigten Staaten ist jeder Bundesstaat für diesen Bereich selbst zuständig und setzt auch seine eigene Aufsichtsbehörde ein. Man war davon überzeugt, in den letzten Jahren große Fortschritte erzielt zu haben, denn die Versicherungsbranche diesseits des Atlantiks hatte sich große Mühe gegeben und glaubte Einvernehmen über den weiteren Gang der Dinge erzielt zu haben. Doch dann erwies sich alles als Schlag ins Wasser, weil die Aufsichtsbehörden in den Vereinigten Staaten mit schöner Regelmäßigkeit ausgetauscht werden. Man kann sich also eine Vorstellung von den Schwierigkeiten machen. Auf meiner jüngsten USA-Reise im April habe ich diese Angelegenheit zur Sprache gebracht, und nun laufen die Verhandlungen wieder. Ich möchte jedoch die Schwierigkeiten herausstreichen, die größtenteils das Problem betreffen, von dem ich soeben gesprochen habe."@de⁹ ". Κύριε Πρόεδρε, έχω μια δυσκολία ως προς αυτό, παρόλο που είχα συνομιλίες με ανθρώπους του κλάδου των ασφαλίσεων. Στο πρόσφατο ταξίδι μου στις Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες, έθεσα το θέμα σε ορισμένους από τους αρμόδιους επιτρόπους για τον τομέα των ασφαλίσεων. Όπως θα γνωρίζει καλά ο αξιότιμος βουλευτής, μία –αν και όχι η μόνη– δυσκολία με το θέμα αυτό είναι ότι στις Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες κάθε πολιτεία έχει αρμοδιότητα στον συγκεκριμένο τομέα. Τουλάχιστον στα κράτη μέλη της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης μπορεί κανείς να απευθυνθεί σε μία ρυθμιστική εποπτική αρχή στο κράτος μέλος, μπορεί να απευθυνθεί στην Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση για αυτή τη συγκεκριμένη οδηγία· στις Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες, όμως, κάθε πολιτεία έχει αρμοδιότητα στον τομέα αυτό και κάθε πολιτεία διορίζει τους δικούς της επιτρόπους για τον τομέα των ασφαλίσεων. Θεωρούσαμε ότι είχαν γίνει μεγάλα βήματα τα τελευταία χρόνια και ο κλάδος των ασφαλίσεων σε αυτή την πλευρά του Ατλαντικού εργαζόταν σκληρά και πίστευε ότι είχε επιτευχθεί συμφωνία για το πώς θα προχωρούσαν τα πράγματα. Στη συνέχεια όμως αυτό κατέρρευσε, διότι οι επίτροποι του τομέα των ασφαλίσεων αλλάζουν σε τακτική βάση στις Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες. Μπορεί συνεπώς κανείς να κατανοήσει τις δυσκολίες. Κατά το πρόσφατο ταξίδι μου στις Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες τον Απρίλιο, έθεσα το θέμα αυτό και τώρα οι συνομιλίες συνεχίζονται και πάλι. Θα ήθελα όμως να υπογραμμίσω τις δυσκολίες, οι οποίες σχετίζονται κατά κύριο λόγο με το θέμα στο οποίο μόλις αναφέρθηκα."@el¹⁰ ". Señor Presidente, tengo dificultades en este sentido, aunque he hablado con personas del sector de los seguros. En mi último viaje a los Estados Unidos he planteado el tema a algunos de los comisarios de seguros. Como su Señoría sabrá, una de las dificultades en ese tema –aunque no la única– es que en los Estados Unidos cada Estado tiene responsabilidades en este ámbito concreto. Al menos en los Estados miembros de la Unión Europea se puede acudir a un supervisor regulador de un Estado miembro, se puede acudir a la Unión Europea con respecto a esta directiva en concreto; pero en los Estados Unidos cada Estado es responsable en este terreno y cada Estado nombra a sus propios comisarios de seguros. Se creía que en los últimos años se había avanzado mucho y el sector de los seguros de este lado del Atlántico había trabajado arduamente y pensaba que habían llegado a un acuerdo sobre cómo iba a evolucionar la situación. Pero entonces todo se vino abajo, porque los comisarios de seguros cambian bastante a menudo en los Estados Unidos. Por eso uno se da cuenta de las dificultades. Durante mi reciente viaje a los Estados Unidos en abril, planteé el tema y ahora se han reanudado las negociaciones. Pero quiero resaltar las dificultades, que tienen que ver principalmente con el tema al que me acabo de referir."@es²⁰ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@et⁵ ". Arvoisa puhemies, tämä asia tuottaa minulle hankaluuksia, vaikka olen keskustellut siitä vakuutusalan edustajien kanssa. Äskettäisellä Yhdysvaltain matkallani käsittelin tätä kysymystä muutamien vakuutusvalvontaviranomaisten kanssa. Kuten arvoisa jäsen hyvin tietänee, yksi – joskaan ei ainoa – hankaluus tässä kysymyksessä on se, että Yhdysvalloissa jokainen osavaltio vastaa vakuutusvalvonnasta omalla alueellaan. Ainakin Euroopan unionissa kussakin jäsenvaltiossa on yksi sääntelyn valvonnasta vastaava viranomainen, jonka puoleen voi kääntyä, ja Euroopan unionissa voi aina vedota tähän nimenomaiseen direktiiviin. Sitä vastoin Yhdysvalloissa kyseinen ala kuuluu yksittäisten osavaltioiden toimivaltaan, ja kukin osavaltio nimittää omat vakuutusvalvontaviranomaisensa. Euroopan unionissa uskottiin, että tässä kysymyksessä oli viime vuosina edistytty hyvää vauhtia. Vakuutusalalla Atlantin tällä puolen oli tehty erittäin lujasti töitä ja luultiin, että amerikkalaisten kanssa oli päästy yhteisymmärrykseen siitä, miten asiat etenisivät. Sitten kaikki kuitenkin romahti, koska vakuutusvalvontaviranomaiset vaihtuvat melko usein Yhdysvalloissa. Ymmärrätte siis varmasti tähän kysymykseen liittyvät vaikeudet. Otin kyseisen asian esille Yhdysvaltoihin huhtikuussa tekemäni matkan aikana, ja nyt keskustelut taas jatkuvat. Haluan kuitenkin tähdentää niitä hankaluuksia, jotka liittyvät lähinnä juuri mainitsemaani kysymykseen."@fi⁷ ". Monsieur le Président, j’ai quelques difficultés à cet égard, bien que j’aie eu l’occasion d’en débattre avec des représentants du secteur des assurances. Lors de mon récent voyage aux États-Unis, j’ai évoqué cette question avec plusieurs commissaires aux assurances. Comme ne l’ignore pas l’honorable député, une difficulté dans ce dossier - bien que cela ne soit pas la seule - tient au fait qu’aux États-Unis, chaque État est compétent en cette matière. Dans l’Union européenne au moins, il y a une autorité de surveillance à laquelle vous pouvez vous adresser dans chaque État membre et vous pouvez vous référer à l’UE pour cette directive en particulier; mais aux États-Unis, chaque État fédéré est responsable de cette matière et nomme son propre commissaire aux assurances. Chacun croyait que d’importants progrès avaient été accomplis ces dernières années; les professionnels de l’assurance de ce côté de l’Atlantique ont travaillé d’arrache-pied et ils pensaient avoir compris quelle tournure les choses allaient prendre. Mais tout s’est alors effondré, car les commissaires aux assurances changent assez régulièrement aux États-Unis. Vous pouvez donc imaginer les difficultés. Au cours de mon dernier séjour aux États-Unis en avril, j’ai soulevé ce problème et les pourparlers ont à présent repris. Mais je souhaitais souligner les difficultés qui sont essentiellement liées au problème que je viens d’exposer."@fr⁸ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@hu¹¹ ". Signor Presidente, sono un po’ in difficoltà a questo proposito, seppur ne abbia già parlato con i rappresentanti dell’industria assicurativa. Nel corso di una recente visita negli Stati Uniti, ho sollevato la questione con alcuni dei commissari competenti per il settore assicurativo. Come gli onorevoli deputati ben sanno, uno dei problemi emersi – e non l’unico – è che negli Stati Uniti la competenza per il settore ricade sui singoli stati. Nell’Unione europea il referente è l’organismo legislativo in materia di vigilanza dello Stato membro interessato, o l’Unione stessa per quanto attiene alla direttiva, mentre negli Stati Uniti ciascuno Stato ha competenza esclusiva e ciascuno Stato nomina il proprio commissario per il settore assicurativo. Si pensava che negli ultimi anni fossero stati compiuti grandi passi avanti e che l’industria assicurativa da questa parte dell’Atlantico si fosse adoperata alacremente raggiungendo un accordo sulle evoluzioni future. Ma poi si è arrivati a un nulla di fatto, poiché l’avvicendamento dei commissari competenti per il settore assicurativo è assai frequente negli Stati Uniti. E’ quindi facile comprendere le difficoltà che ne derivano. Nel corso della visita che ho compiuto in aprile negli Stati Uniti, ho sollevato la questione ed ora le discussioni sono state riavviate. Desidero tuttavia sottolinearne le difficoltà, che principalmente attengono ai fatti che ho esposto poc’anzi."@it¹² "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@lt¹⁴ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@lv¹³ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@mt¹⁵ "Mijnheer de Voorzitter, dat ligt niet zo eenvoudig, ook al heb ik hier wel al besprekingen over gevoerd met vertegenwoordigers uit de verzekeringssector. Tijdens mijn bezoek onlangs aan de Verenigde Staten heb ik deze kwestie aangeroerd met sommige van de verzekeringscommissarissen. Zoals de geachte afgevaardigde heel goed weet, is één van de problemen met deze kwestie – overigens niet het enige probleem – dat in de Verenigde Staten elke staat verantwoordelijk is voor dat specifieke gebied. In de Europese Unie heb je tenminste per staat één toezichthouder en is er de Unie voor deze specifieke richtlijn. In de Verenigde Staten, daarentegen, draagt elke staat verantwoordelijkheid op dit gebied en benoemt elke staat zijn eigen commissarissen voor verzekeringszaken. Men dacht dat er in recente jaren belangrijke vooruitgang was geboekt, dat de verzekeringswereld aan de andere kant van de Oceaan zich heel hard had ingezet en dat een koers was uitgezet voor toekomstige ontwikkelingen. Tot alles uit elkaar viel, omdat de verzekeringscommissarissen in de Verenigde Staten elkaar met enige regelmaat afwisselen. Dat geeft wel aan hoe lastig de zaak is. Tijdens mijn bezoek aan de Verenigde Staten in april heb ik deze kwestie aangesneden, en op dit moment wordt er opnieuw overlegd. Ik wil echter met nadruk wijzen op de problemen, die overwegend samenhangen met de aspecten die ik zojuist heb genoemd."@nl³ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@pl¹⁶ "Senhor Presidente, estou a ter dificuldades quanto a esse aspecto, embora tenha mantido discussões com pessoas do sector dos seguros. Na minha recente deslocação aos Estados Unidos, levantei a questão junto de alguns comissários de seguros. Tal como o senhor deputado bem sabe, uma das dificuldades - embora não seja a única - desta questão reside no facto de, nos Estados Unidos, cada estado ter competência neste domínio específico. Nos Estados-Membros da União Europeia, podemos pelo menos dirigir-nos a uma entidade reguladora nacional, podemos dirigir-nos à União Europeia no que se refere a esta directiva específica; mas, nos Estados Unidos, cada estado tem competência nesta matéria e pode nomear os seus próprios comissários de seguros. Julgávamos ter feito grandes progressos nos últimos anos, e o sector dos seguros deste lado do Atlântico tem trabalhado duramente e pensava ter compreendido como é que este processo iria avançar. Mas, depois, tudo caiu por terra porque, nos Estados Unidos, os comissários de seguros mudam com bastante frequência. Por conseguinte, é fácil compreender as dificuldades que isto acarreta. Durante a minha recente deslocação aos Estados Unidos, em Abril, levantei este assunto e, neste momento, as conversações estão novamente a avançar. Mas gostaria de sublinhar que existem dificuldades, que se prendem principalmente com o aspecto que acabo de mencionar."@pt¹⁷ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@sk¹⁸ "Mr President, I am having difficulties in that regard, although I have had discussions with people in the insurance industry. On my recent trip to the United States I raised the issue with some of the insurance commissioners. As the honourable Member will well know, one – though not the only –difficulty with this issue is that in the United States each state has responsibility for that particular area. At least in the Member States of the European Union you can go to one regulatory supervisor in the Member State, you can go to the European Union for this particular directive; but in the United States each state has responsibility in this area and each state appoints its own insurance commissioners. It was believed that great strides had been made in recent years and the insurance industry on this side of the Atlantic had been working very hard and thought they had reached an understanding of how things would move forward. But then it all broke down, because the insurance commissioners change on a pretty regular basis in the United States. So one can appreciate the difficulties. During my recent trip to the United States in April, I raised this matter and now the talks are ongoing again. But I would like to underline the difficulties, which are mostly related to the issue to which I have just referred."@sl¹⁹ ". Herr talman! Det finns svårigheter i detta avseende, men jag har diskuterat frågan med folk i försäkringsbranschen. Vid mitt besök i Förenta staterna nyligen tog jag upp frågan med några av försäkringskommissionärerna. Som den ärade parlamentsledamoten mycket väl vet är en av svårigheterna – om än inte den enda – att varje delstat i Förenta staterna har ansvar för sitt eget territorium. I Europeiska unionens medlemsstater kan man åtminstone vända sig till en tillsynsmyndighet i respektive medlemsstat eller till Europeiska unionen när det gäller just detta direktiv. Men i Förenta staterna har varje delstat ansvar inom detta område och utser sina egna försäkringskommissionärer. Vi ansåg att stora framsteg hade gjorts under senare år, och försäkringsbranschen på den här sidan om Atlanten hade arbetat mycket hårt och trodde att samförstånd hade nåtts om hur man skulle gå vidare. Men sedan bröt allt samman eftersom försäkringskommissionärerna byts ut ganska ofta i Förenta staterna. Så man kan förstå svårigheterna. Under mitt besök i Förenta staterna i april tog jag upp denna fråga och nu förs nya samtal. Men jag vill betona svårigheterna som främst beror på de orsaker som jag just nämnde."@sv²¹
lpv:unclassifiedMetadata	"Charlie McCreevy,"^{5,19,15,1,18,14,16,11,11,13,4} "Member of the Commission"^{5,19,15,1,18,14,16,11,11,13,4}